Mike Johnston wrote:
> On 2023-07-26 17:43, Paul Timmins via VoiceOps wrote:
> > I wouldn't be surprised to see carriers dumping these calls via a GSM
> > gateway, this is really common in europe with gray routes. It'd
> > explain why you get weird cellular voicemail, if they sent the number
>
On 2023-07-26 17:43, Paul Timmins via VoiceOps wrote:
I wouldn't be surprised to see carriers dumping these calls via a GSM gateway,
this is really common in europe with gray routes. It'd explain why you get
weird cellular voicemail, if they sent the number to the cell phone wrong to
actually
I suppose a GSM gateway is a remote possibility. But I don't see how that
explains the voicemail system answering the call. If I place a call from my
personal cell to some number, and for some reason my cell carrier fails to
complete that call for me, that call is not then sent to my cell
Mike Johnston wrote:
> I serve a rural area. I do the technical "make it work" stuff. I'm
> generally only involved in the business dealings insofar as determining
> technical incompatibilities (draw 7 red lines, all perpendicular, some
> with green ink and some with transparent). That
I wouldn't be surprised to see carriers dumping these calls via a GSM gateway,
this is really common in europe with gray routes. It'd explain why you get
weird cellular voicemail, if they sent the number to the cell phone wrong to
actually dial out.
> On Jul 26, 2023, at 6:36 PM, Nathan
I just want to briefly point out that I was engaging in some hyperbolic
metaphor with the "twelve rounds" bit, and it seems to have misfired. It
wasn't literally 12, and apologies for (unintentionally) misleading anyone. I
was attempting (poorly, apparently) to use a boxing analogy (and what
I serve a rural area. I do the technical "make it work" stuff. I'm
generally only involved in the business dealings insofar as determining
technical incompatibilities (draw 7 red lines, all perpendicular, some
with green ink and some with transparent). That said, please forgive
any errors
Mark's reference to the RCC regs is pointing in the right direction.
The problem stems from sketchy providers trying to save money routing via
circuitous pathways, which often end up with the misbehaviors cited in this
thread.
Nathan's comments that he's been through TWELVE rounds of provider
It would not only be a form of fraud, but sounds be a violation of the Rural
Call Completion rules (specifically 47 CFR 64.2119(a)). I would recommend you
make a complaint to the FCC and categorize them at Rural Call Completion
issues. Provide as much info as you can on carrier names, dates and
Hi Nathan -
I don't think that your supposition that the calls are being misrouted for
the carrier doing it to collect the termination revenue's far from the
truth. This has been going on forever in myriad ways - send answer on
ringing (extends the chargeable duration of a call), route calls to
...by which I mean, we send a call to a term provider via SIP, who then *seems*
to terminate the call to the wrong callee entirely.
What the heck actually causes this?
Whenever I have experienced it, it inevitably involves a rural carrier of some
kind, one that likely charges a lot to accept
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