Re: Tranmission line losses

2004-10-21 Thread Horace Heffner
At 2:44 PM 10/21/4, Horace Heffner (I) wrote: >Perhaps line loss problems go away if a well tuned transmission line is >used, especially a coaxial line or micrwave waveguide? It certainly is >true that transmission loss in modern glass is fairly low, perhaps AC or >microwave transmission by waveg

Re: Tranmission line losses

2004-10-21 Thread Horace Heffner
More food for thought. Efficient underground long line bulk electric energy transmission, like that from nuclear plants, might be achieved using very low frequencies, like 1 Hz or less. Unlike pure DC, this approach would facilitate using low frequency motor-generator sets at the delivery end to

RE: New superconductor paper on XXXLanl

2004-10-21 Thread Mark Goldes
Hi, These are indeed our Ultraconductors. David has been a consultant to the Company in the past. He studied these polymers on a U.S. government grant for a year before we met him back about 1995. He has published several papers about these polymers before and since and has a somewhat differe

Re: Tranmission line losses

2004-10-21 Thread Horace Heffner
Something that I would personally like to see is all electrical transmission and distribution under ground. Here in Alaska there are various nice neighborhoods that have underground power, but there are many neighborhoods and great vistas along the roadsides spoiled by unsightly power lines. One

Re: Freedom of the randomness

2004-10-21 Thread Baronvolsung
In a message dated 10/20/04 7:24:22 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Heffner mentioned randomness. In automatic flow control a setpoint is maintained by selecting a proportional band and determining the number of resets per minute that would permit the control to average the fl

Polyphase Transmission line losses

2004-10-21 Thread Harvey Norris
--- Jones Beene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is all true historically, but in hindsight we > can ask - > were there any missed opportunities along the way? > When it > comes to moving lots of power hundreds of miles > through > Transmission Lines, and given that historically > "other" > con

Re: Tranmission line losses

2004-10-21 Thread Terry Blanton
Jones Beene wrote: BTW, do I detect that you are professionally involved in power transmission and distribution design now ? No, that was another life, 17 years ago.

New superconductor paper on XXXLanl ( for Mark )

2004-10-21 Thread Keith Nagel
Hi. I was wondering if Mark Goldes had a comment about this paper that just came over my (virtual) desk. http://xxx.lanl.gov/abs/cond-mat/0410503 It sounded sort of familiar. K.

Re: Tranmission line losses

2004-10-21 Thread Jones Beene
Terry, > You haven't done much transmission and distribution design I gather. :-) Nope... but this was meant to be mildly thought-provoking with a touch of geek humor, rather than time to see if the bootleged CAD program will load... > Either bus gives you 120 VAC rms to ground (neutral) and >

Re: Tranmission line losses

2004-10-21 Thread Jones Beene
One further even more highly speculative thought... free-form thinking permitted. Lets say that between your house and the power station there are six transformers, three up and three down, and 16% total line loss; and each transformer is 98% efficient. Note that these losses are all COMPOUNDED ju

Re: Tranmission line losses

2004-10-21 Thread Terry Blanton
Jones Beene wrote: Way too much. You haven't done much transmission and distribution design I gather. :-) AC has one great advantage when clearing fault currents: it goes through zero current 120 times a second. DC faults tend to burn until you melt away enough bus structure that the air gap r

Re: All Over Reactance

2004-10-21 Thread Horace Heffner
At 2:00 PM 10/21/4, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >In a message dated 10/21/2004 12:07:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >> The subject, though, was 100 GHz rectification and power supply size. My >> point was that FETs overcame the drop in efficiency of diodes at high >> freque

Re: All Over Reactance

2004-10-21 Thread FZNIDARSIC
In a message dated 10/21/2004 12:07:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The subject, though, was 100 GHz rectification and power supply size.  My point was that FETs overcame the drop in efficiency of diodes at high frequencies, but FETs too have their limitations and drop off i

Re: Tranmission line losses

2004-10-21 Thread FZNIDARSIC
In a message dated 10/21/2004 12:31:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Here is the main point which I meant to make before. Although the low loss technology for HV DC was not in place during the Westinghouse-Edison-Tesla days, one wonders if some kind of imposed national R&D ef

Tranmission line losses

2004-10-21 Thread Jones Beene
Looks like I managed to inadvertently offend quite a few EEs with previous posting. My apologies... as that was not the intention. The main culprits in the "big picture" of the national electric "grid" then as now, is/was lack of adequate long-term planning, the jealous guarding of antiquated comme

Re: All Over Reactance

2004-10-21 Thread Horace Heffner
At 8:56 PM 10/20/4, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >In a message dated 10/20/2004 8:44:32 PM Eastern Standard Time, >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >> One main problem with using high >> frequency transformers in power supplies until fairly recently was >> rectification. Diodes drop in efficiency with freq

Re: Freedom of the randomness#2

2004-10-21 Thread Grimer
At 07:04 am 21-10-04 -0500, you wrote: >BlankWe are not seeking OU in our studies of mechanical vortexes. The task we face is >to meet an ever growing demand for better mixing of chemicals into liquids. The >nightmare scenario of problems presented the water treating industry by the entrance >o

ICCF11 abstracts posted

2004-10-21 Thread Jed Rothwell
See: http://www.iccf11.org/images/All%20abstracts.pdf http://www.iccf11.org/index2.htm Message from Biberian: Dear colleague, The ICCF11 web site has been updated, it includes now the full program, and all the abstracts. We also have added a press section. Please contact me if you see any error s

Re: All Over Reactance

2004-10-21 Thread Mike Carrell
Horace wrote: > One of the reasons 60 Hz was chosen over higher frequencies is the > prevention of transmission line losses. One main problem with using high > freqency transformers in power supplies until fairly recently was > rectification. Diodes drop in efficiency with frequency. These day

Re: All Over Reactance

2004-10-21 Thread Mike Carrell
- Original Message - From: Jones Beene To: vortex Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 6:41 PM Subject: All Over Reactance The short answer to Jone's comments about shrinking power supplies and why did it take so long, etc. is that transformers are needed to isolate the circuits from the ma

Freedom of the randomness#2

2004-10-21 Thread RC Macaulay
We are not seeking OU in our studies of mechanical vortexes. The task we face is to meet an ever growing  demand for better mixing of chemicals into liquids.The nightmare scenario of problems presented the water treating industry by the entrance of exotic toxic chemicals, drugs , viruses and

Re: Beta Minus Decay, Antineutrinos & Electronium

2004-10-21 Thread Frederick Sparber
Beta Minus decay is always  accompanied by an Antineutrino.   The reaction of an Antineutrino (*v) from Beta Minus decay in the atmosphere, hydrosphere, or in the earth with any Free or Nuclear Proton:   Antineutrino + Proton -> Neutron + (e+)   Note that a Neutron + Proton >  Deuterium

Re: Dimensions of mass

2004-10-21 Thread Grimer
At 03:31 pm 20-10-04 -0400, you wrote: >Frank writes: >>Both Ing.Saviour and I have quite independently recognised that >>mass has the dimension of T/L (see http://www.blazelabs.com/) >>and it is evident that materons have "hidden mass". > >Add me to the list too. In '91 I was studying the >CGS s