Hi All.
Pity; I was hoping the tether could be eliminated. Given the 300V/M
gradient of the earth, voltages will be >1MV for the heights being
suggested for these kites. Now, one could use a shielded cable
and ground the shield, fair enough. But what happens when a storm
comes through? The typical
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:08:47
-0400:
Hi,
[snip]
>I did not enumerate the advantages of these energy harvesting kites.
>
>Actually, they would not be kites at all, but mobile aircraft.
They have to be tethered, or they won't harvest energy. Free
flying craft don'
I was just sent this by a friend. anyone seen it before?
http://www.thepump.org/art3subcuttings.html
it seems plausible, yet im immediately thinking there is an ou issue
here. its essentially pumping water from the surface and back, yes
no? with no extra source of energy.
Here is a good example of what can happen. See the photos at the bottom of
this page:
http://www.cargolaw.com/2001nightmare-saudi-flop.html
"White Planes Can't Jump"
Kuala Lumpur International Airport
The 2001 Countryman & McDaniel Cargo Nightmare 4th Place Co-Prize Winner
"Normal brakes on a 747
Keith Nagel wrote:
Your analogy of the oranges is
faulty. It presumes I can walk down the street to another store and buy
them cheaper. The real situation is that, because Con Ed control the
distribution system, I can't really deal with anyone but
them.
In that case you can stop eating oranges. I
Standing Bear wrote:
Wind turbines are not unsightly, they are graceful expressions of modern
technology as art. Just go outside Barstow, California and look for yourself.
I do not mind seeing a few of them, but to supply the entire world with
energy we would need ~15 million (three times more th
Hi Jed,
Your analogy of the oranges is faulty. It presumes I can walk down
the street to another store and buy them cheaper. The real situation
is that, because Con Ed control the distribution system, I can't
really deal with anyone but them. When the industry was deregulated, I
looked into buying
>
> High-altitude hovering aircraft would also be very useful for television
> broadcasts and cell phone towers. For television they would probably be
> better than satellites, and much cheaper.
>
> Safety would be an issue. Five million autonomous kites would cause
> accidents from time to time.
I did not enumerate the advantages of these energy
harvesting kites.
Actually, they would not be kites at all, but mobile aircraft. You can
manufacture them in one place and have them fly elsewhere. They might
descend from the sky to deliver hydrogen to a shopping mall or factory.
They would comb
--- RC Macaulay wrote:
> BlankAs our applied research continues on an
> inductor that generates higher rotational speed
> vortexes up to 10,000RPM, one of our tasks include
> designing a hollowshaft unit that will permit firing
> a UV laser light directly into the center cone of
> the vortex tog
Keith Nagel wrote:
Hi Jed,
What's so hard to understand? If I can take a commodity
worth 4 cents and sell it to you for 16 cents, I make
a huge profit. If I install special meters that allow
you to buy the same commodity for 4 cents, I don't
make a huge profit.
On the contrary, you might make a m
As our applied research continues on an inductor that generates higher
rotational speed vortexes up to 10,000RPM, one of our tasks include designing a
hollowshaft unit that will permit firing a UV laser light directly into the
center cone of the vortex together with a sonic gun that can shoo
The thought of water having properties in the order of a capacitor begs the
question of HOW or what exactly triggers the discharge. Thinking of the energy
discharged across the duration of a hurricane or tornado is astounding
because an actual buildup of energy occurs as the storm
intensifi
Jones Beene suggested that kites might send energy back to
rest in microwave beams. The disadvantage to this, compared to a tether,
would be they could not easily be powered to go from ground level to high
altitude.
Here is another idea -- which is kind of nutty. A few years ago, NASA
tried to bu
Hi Jed,
What's so hard to understand? If I can take a commodity
worth 4 cents and sell it to you for 16 cents, I make
a huge profit. If I install special meters that allow
you to buy the same commodity for 4 cents, I don't
make a huge profit.
Remember, I'm ALWAYS paying the peak cost, regardless
Keith Nagel wrote:
So why do we still have the
meter service? If you
ask the electric company, they predictably complain
about the evil meter readers union. Well, I'm here to tell you,
most unions in this town are so horrifically corrupt
and toothless, that they are kept around _only_ to
provide
Jones Beene wrote:
> I do not think those
gigantic kites would require
ultra-strong tethers. They would not pull on the
tether much.
This could not be correct, logically.
IF you were right and the kite "would not pull on the
tether much" then you don't need a tehter at all!!
Well, I think it ha
Jones Beene wrote:
> This calls for expensive
and sophisticated meters.
Not necessarily, in the near furure. I think this
metering capability could and will be done **very
cheaply** (less than $25 capital cost) and without
replacing the existing meter.
One would need only to provide a tiny clamp
Sure. It would be _very_ cheap to replace the huge
difficult to service electromechanical meters with
networked solid state sensors. This has already been done with
our gas service, years ago. In addition, it's far
safer for us. Every couple of years there is a
spate of robberies where the thieves
At 10:21 PM 4/8/2005, Mike Carrell wrote:
Vorts,
Peter Gluck is a veteran CF supporter who lives in Romania. He asked me to
forward the questions below for comment on vortex.
Mike Carrell
--
Dear Friends,
This was once a group dedicated to
Cold Fusion and perhaps
--- Jed Rothwell wrote:
> I do not think those gigantic kites would require
ultra-strong tethers. They would not pull on the
tether much.
This could not be correct, logically.
IF you were right and the kite "would not pull on the
tether much" then you don't need a tehter at all!!
Simply dive
Keith wrote:
> >At least where I live, we are charged the same
premium rate( 16 cents/KWH ) regardless of the time of
day. There is no off-peak hour for my residential
service.
> This calls for expensive and sophisticated meters.
Not necessarily, in the near furure. I think this
metering capa
I do not think those gigantic kites would require
ultra-strong tethers. They would not pull on the tether much. Most of the
energy of the wind is dissipated either in lifting the kite or turning
the electric generators. The kites would work like autogyros. (See:
http://www.jefflewis.net/autogyro
At 10:01 PM 4/11/2005, Akira Kawasaki wrote:
April 11, 2005
Vortex,
Has the discussion group that poplulated Vortex been moved? I am not too
much into, or interested in, biblical topics mixed into CF.
-ak-
The 2005 Cold Fusion Colloquium
" Cold Fusion and other Clean Energy Investigations from
Keith Nagel wrote:
This has always bothered me
about residential electricity sales.
At least where I live, we are charged the same premium rate
( 16 cents/KWH ) regardless of the time of day. There is no
off-peak hour for my residential service.
This calls for expensive and sophisticated meters.
Hi Horace,
...
> Wow. They really had some things together in 1500-1400
> BC. This list is humbling. I knew I was a sinner, but
> I didn't realize how much a sinner I really am.
>
> Regards,
>
> Horace Heffner
Rest assured that you are in good company. ;-)
Regards,
Steven Vincent
That was the Nebseni Papyrus version.
Regards,
Horace Heffner
At 11:15 PM 4/11/5, leaking pen wrote:
>dah, its the 125th chapter (not spell ) of the papyrus of ani.
OK, I see. Thanks! Ignoring the hail to this and that, in the negative
confession, there are essentially 43 commandment equivalences implied.
Slightly rephrasing, THALL SHALT NOT:
1. create
When I followed up Jones's suggestion that the binding energy
of the water is 498 calories...
===
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/thermo/phase.html#c5
If the heat of vaporization of water at 100°C is 539 cal.,
then
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