RE: Global Warming - State of Fear

2005-09-06 Thread Michael Foster
Before all the superannuated socialists who largely populate this list get your knickers in a twist, you should perhaps read Mr. Crichton's book. I have read all of Michael Crichton's books including this one. It's really not up to his normal standard in terms of being a novel. It's kind of sec

Re: "magic numbers"

2005-09-06 Thread Jones Beene
Harvey, Thanx for the answers there, a 1976 Scientific American article shows that it can be done, but I have not yet read this article. Here is the actual order 5 perfect cube, which can be magnified http://cboyer.club.fr/multimagie/English/Perfectcubes.htm This cube contains all the intege

Re: OT: tommorrow's theme parks

2005-09-06 Thread Terry Blanton
> From: "Jones Beene" > BTW... Just reading the mind of Terry Blanton (the other SciFi > movie trivia-freak on vortex) in the context of "Total Recall" > ..."Strange Days" and "Brainstorm". M, Natalie Wood . . . "INSIDE Daisy Clover" . . . now THAT's a ride. What did Wagner and Walk

OT: tommorrow's theme parks

2005-09-06 Thread Jones Beene
One comment on JR's earlier speculation: Past tragedy and misery are reborn as today's theme parks. Someone in Virginia recently started a weekend retreat for people who want to reenact Vietnam war battles, the way people reenact Civil War battles. I recall as a child I rode one of these amus

Re: OFF TOPIC Magic marker technique to encourage evacuation

2005-09-06 Thread Terry Blanton
> From: OrionWorks > A fine example of evolution at work. Ah! The Samurai Crab! From Carl Sagan's Cosmos series. Not natural selection at work . . . artifical selection: http://web.singnet.com.sg/~sctien/samurai_crabs.htm

Re: OFF TOPIC Magic marker technique to encourage evacuation

2005-09-06 Thread OrionWorks
> Jed Sez: > An interesting observation about human psychology: > > http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/06/opinion/06tierney.html > > QUOTE: > > [Jim] Judkins is one of the officials in charge of > evacuating the Hampton > Roads region around Newport News, Va. . . . > > Instead of relying on a "Go

Re: Global Warming - State of Fear

2005-09-06 Thread Jed Rothwell
OrionWorks wrote: I haven't read Mr. Chrichton's book on Global Warming, so I can't say if he is or or is not arguing the position of excess Co2 build up in our atmosphere. I have not read the book either, but the book reviews say he denies that CO2 is a contributing factor, for the reasons

Re: Global Warming - State of Fear

2005-09-06 Thread Terry Blanton
> From: OrionWorks > Terry, have you read his book? To be fair, here's an opposing viewpoint: http://www.earthinstitute.columbia.edu/news/2004/story12-13-04b.html

Re: Global Warming - State of Fear

2005-09-06 Thread OrionWorks
Upon further reflection of Chrichton's comments as quoted by Terry it does appear at least from my point of view that the author of "The Andromeda Strain" is indeed a skeptic in terms of believing in increased levels of Co2 as the cause of Global Warming. We may still be missing the boat. Forg

Re: Global Warming - State of Fear

2005-09-06 Thread Terry Blanton
> From: OrionWorks > Terry, have you read his book? Yes, quite enlightening. Here's a review: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/04361/431735.stm

Re: Global Warming - State of Fear

2005-09-06 Thread OrionWorks
> Edmund Sez: > > An interesting point. This same point can be made about > cyanide. An average person weighs about 80,000 gm. It > takes about 50 mg of NaCN to kill an average person, > which is only 0.0022 inches on the football field. > Obviously, a person can not be harmed by such a small >

OFF TOPIC Magic marker technique to encourage evacuation

2005-09-06 Thread Jed Rothwell
An interesting observation about human psychology: http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/06/opinion/06tierney.html QUOTE: [Jim] Judkins is one of the officials in charge of evacuating the Hampton Roads region around Newport News, Va. . . . Instead of relying on a "Good Samaritan" policy -- the fant

Re: Global Warming - State of Fear

2005-09-06 Thread Edmund Storms
An interesting point. This same point can be made about cyanide. An average person weighs about 80,000 gm. It takes about 50 mg of NaCN to kill an average person, which is only 0.0022 inches on the football field. Obviously, a person can not be harmed by such a small distance. No wonder the

Re: Global Warming - State of Fear

2005-09-06 Thread Jed Rothwell
Terry Blanton wrote: Michael Crichton makes an interesting analogy in his book on Global Warming: . . . And how much of the remaining three inches is carbon dioxide? One inch. "You are told carbon dioxide has increased in the last 50 years. Do you know how much it has increased, on our footbal

Global Warming - State of Fear

2005-09-06 Thread Terry Blanton
Michael Crichton makes an interesting analogy in his book on Global Warming: "Imagine the composition of the Earth's atmosphere as a football field. Most of the atmosphere is nitrogen. So, starting from the goal line, nitrogen takes you all the way to the 78 yard line. And most of what's left is

RE: YK2, gurus, economics

2005-09-06 Thread Jed Rothwell
R.O.Cornwall wrote: Global warming like most things in science *under investigation* is properly a hypothesis some would call it conjecture. What is wrong is to plunge the world into recession on the whim of someone's *pet theory* . . . I do not buy this. Suppose, for the sake of argument, we

RE: Alleviating Energy Costs

2005-09-06 Thread Frederick Sparber
Title: Message John.   Some options to consider for geothermal/ground source heat pumps.   1, Build a new house with a water storage "vault" beneath the floor similar to   Al Capone's hidden room that Heraldo Rivera opened in the mid 80s.   2, Flood your basement for the duration.   3, Rent a ba

Re: OT: what doesn't kill you....

2005-09-06 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene wrote: Actually, it is a well-known phrase from "Thus Spake Zarathustra" written by the brilliant but controversial German philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche. Brilliant? In my opinion he was world-class jerk, and I despise the notion that suffering is good for people. i.e. will th

Bovine Matrix

2005-09-06 Thread Terry Blanton
http://www.physorg.com/news6141.html "Results showed that the microbes in about a half a liter of rumen fluid – fermented, liquefied feed extracted from the rumen, the largest chamber of a cow's stomach – produced about 600 millivolts of electricity. "

Typhoon 14 hits Japan

2005-09-06 Thread Jed Rothwell
I mentioned the other day that a tremendous typhoon was approaching Japan. It struck the southwest islands about 12 hours ago, and it is just passing out to sea again. It may hit Hokkaido later. It covers one of the largest areas on record, and in some areas it produced 1300 mm of rain in a 24-h

Re: OT: what doesn't kill you....

2005-09-06 Thread Terry Blanton
> From: "Jones Beene" > What doesn't kill me, postpones the Inevitable That's 'Adversity': http://despair.com/indem.html#viewall I like 'Potential'. ;-)

RE: 90mpg

2005-09-06 Thread Terry Blanton
> From: Grimer > I know someone who runs his second hand diesel on cooking oil from > the local Tesco. Does he have to use diesel to start the engine and switch to the fish & chips? Or, will the engine start on the cooking oil?

OT: what doesn't kill you....

2005-09-06 Thread Jones Beene
You've probably heard the old homily "What Doesn't Kill You Makes You Stronger" a hundred times, perhaps even with some passing acknowledgement that it probably contains a kernel of truth (depending on how you have been personally affected by the short-term circumstances).   Actually, it is

RE: Alleviating Energy Costs

2005-09-06 Thread John Steck
Title: Message Thank you for forwarding the link.  Dropped an email to my local rep to give me a quote.  I will share with the class what I find out... 8^)   -john     -Original Message-From: Frederick Sparber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2005 8:21 AMTo:

RE: How $1 trillion could eliminate oil

2005-09-06 Thread John Steck
Here is something some here might find interesting... http://www.goodideacreative.com/wheelockmtn.html Not sure if they are worth the money or not yet. -john -Original Message- From: Wesley Bruce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2005 7:48 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo

RE: 90mpg

2005-09-06 Thread Grimer
At 03:39 pm 06/09/2005 +0100, you wrote: >John, >I'll look into this. I'm not expert here. I think my friend is talking a.se, >once he said diesels are capable of efficiencies of over 80%. > >I imagine if you kick a hole in the footwells and stick your feet out like >the Flintstones you can have an

Re: "magic numbers"

2005-09-06 Thread Harvey Norris
--- Frederick Sparber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jones Beene asks. > > > " "Seven" is a number that is entrenched in > mysticism at many levels - but why? " > > Because it is the result of dividing the "42", the > answer Arthur Dent got when he asked the computer > the meaning of life by 6 ?

RE: 90mpg

2005-09-06 Thread R . O . Cornwall
John, I'll look into this. I'm not expert here. I think my friend is talking a.se, once he said diesels are capable of efficiencies of over 80%. I imagine if you kick a hole in the footwells and stick your feet out like the Flintstones you can have any amount of efficiency you desire :) Or get Din

Re: 90mpg

2005-09-06 Thread John Harris
Was that a Diesel conversion? LPG won't ignite in a CI engine so it is usual to use a small amount of diesel (usually the idle qty) as an ignition charge. I can see how a diesel can get 90 MPG on diesel with the LPG in addition. Regards JohnH Just as a PS - you cant run a vapour through diesel inje

RE: OT Global warming (Y2K debate)

2005-09-06 Thread OrionWorks
> From: R.O.Cornwall > > Mike, your tone is patronising. > > Y2K was hype to get programmers jobs and make academics look clever. Yes it > did ameliorate to some extent BUT the spiel was that it was all too late and > global meltdown was imminent. Not wishing to get in the cross fire here. I ha

The science spectrum

2005-09-06 Thread R . O . Cornwall
Vo, Not the link I was looking for but this is quite good apart from some opinion which may grate. (Also donate to these philanthropic services if you can as I must do here too. 'Mere public' can organise their affairs without state intervention - sometimes.) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conjectur

Re: The Saturn Booster facility, New Orleans-Slidell

2005-09-06 Thread Frederick Sparber
Taken by barge to the Cape no doubt.     http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?z=16&n=3324392.9984428&e=218503.999775696&datum=nad83&u=6    

[Fwd: Re: O.T. The Good Old Days.]

2005-09-06 Thread Michael T. Huffman
Forwarded Message From: Michael T. Huffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To:vortex-l@eskimo.com To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: O.T. The Good Old Days. Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2005 13:05:31 +0200 On Tue, 2005-09-06 at 03:54 -0500, Frederick Sparber wrote: > I also hold the world's recor

RE: 90mpg

2005-09-06 Thread R . O . Cornwall
Further to this topic: http://www.greenfuel.org.uk/ Have a look at the FAQs. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 September 2005 12:05 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: 90mpg Exactly what I thought and told my fri

RE: 90mpg

2005-09-06 Thread R . O . Cornwall
Exactly what I thought and told my friend. Swings and roundabouts. Also I can't see how the fuel injection system couldn't be modified, diesel is thick and viscous even liquefied gas flows easily. I don't like the idea of losing space to the tanks and I don't like the idea of getting in an acciden

Re: 90mpg

2005-09-06 Thread Noel D. Whitney
I ran a BMW 525 years ago with LPG conversion and never got a great success from the conversion - You had to drive it harder to get the same engine effort - suggestion a lot less bang per buck from LPG The cost saving on fuel was offset by the "heavy foot" required to maintain the same speed rg

RE: 90mpg

2005-09-06 Thread R . O . Cornwall
Yeah, I'm sceptical too. Normally the bigwigs in Sevenoaks with £60-80K top of the range RRs doing 8mpg could care less about fuel consumption. My friend John does occasionally come up with bloopers - 90mpg!? Anyway, when I next drive by there I'll get it. I like the one about red diesel and fals

Re: 90mpg

2005-09-06 Thread John Harris
What does he drink?? But seriously I haven't heard of an LPG conversion doing anything else than less MPG. Is this using standard parts or some new system? 800 quid just sounds like a usual run of the mill job, definitely not enough for anything major. Can you get the name of the conversion place f

OT: 90mpg

2005-09-06 Thread R . O . Cornwall
Vo, A friend of mine who is a very good mechanical engineer reckons that the local gas conversion place in Biggin Hill is getting Land Rovers to do 90mpg on LPG with no modification to the engine (yeh!?). It costs about £800. Amazing. R. ... Website http://luna

RE: Global warming

2005-09-06 Thread R . O . Cornwall
Mike, your tone is patronising. Y2K was hype to get programmers jobs and make academics look clever. Yes it did ameliorate to some extent BUT the spiel was that it was all too late and global meltdown was imminent. All we ask is proportion and measure in public announcements. -Original Me

RE: YK2, gurus, economics

2005-09-06 Thread R . O . Cornwall
Yes Jed I agree on several points: Y2K was man-made and avoidable. Yes the action probably prevented a lot of difficulties (everyone complains when there is lack of service but takes it for granted when it works...) but the gurus still kept on saying, even in spite of the works that it was doom an

Re: O.T. The Good Old Days.

2005-09-06 Thread Frederick Sparber
Ancient history revisited.   I was stationed at "Site Baker" from Jan 52 to April 53. Keeping the radio transmitters (up by the radio tower) online.   I also hold the world's record for outrunning a two-ton atomic artillery shell mounted on a 4-wheel dolly (~ 15 kiloton yield) in a sloping tunne

Re: "self-winding" universe

2005-09-06 Thread Wesley Bruce
I like your argument but the idea of a system that self winds at the level on gravity potentials may be looking at the wrong level. May science fiction writers have argued in favor of civilizations that can manipulate the cosmos technologically. God may indeed have added a winder to the univers