I believe you are correct.
As for his weather modification nonsense, Bearden claimed the Soviets were
modifying the weather to cripple the American breadbasket in the midwest, at
precisely the same time that the USSR was importing wheat from us,
Argentinia and elsewhere. If they knew how to m
Title: Bearden
Vortexians;
Correct me if I'm wrong but; AFAIK, Tom Bearden has yet to
demonstrate a working machine. As for modifying the weather, IMHO,
that's right out of the conspiracy theory fever swamp.
Subject: FWD: About Thomas
Bearden and Hurricane Katrina, et. al.
Date: Tue,
Jones wrote:
> No, not a misspell of 'dessert ice' (not this time anyway)...
> Poser-of-the-Day: Can anyone imagine making real ice, as in
> solid-water ice, but in the desert, using zero electricity and
> only natural forces?
I can absolutely imagine it. I used to do it when I was a kid.
Not
In reply to John Steck's message of Tue, 13 Sep 2005 10:30:53
-0500:
Hi,
[snip]
>Development isn't, commercialization is. Not just CF but anything that
>shows any possibility of destabilizing the world economy by attacking one of
>the main support pillars (oil/energy, cheap labor, raw materials,
Michael Foster wrote:
Is Ed Storms actually a Super Double Secret Dysinformation
Agent who has penetrated the white knights of Vortex-L?
(Gasp!) I suppose not, but Ed's response to my original post
on the subject of possible cold fusion suppression was a little
funny. You know, Dimitri, just
More on my vast left or right wing conspiracy theory of
cold fusion suppression.
On the subject of my possible low budget Pb207 isotope
separation I wrote:
>> I couldn't get any uranium because the nuclear section was
>> more or less off limits to me, and besides the melting point
>> is too high
Try this: http://www.readplease.com/
-john
-Original Message-
From: Mathias Bage [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 7:30 PM
To: vortex
Subject: Re: OT: Never too old...dawg
On Tue, 13 Sep 2005, Jones Beene wrote:
> I mentioned the iPod Nano the other day; a
Harry Veeder wrote:
OrionWorks wrote:
From: Harry Veeder
I was wondering if anyone has heard about this lifter experiment which
purports to show that there is no new physics associated with lifters.
http://www.blazelabs.com/l-vacuum.asp
If so, do you feel the experiment is definitive?
Harry Veeder wrote:
I was wondering if anyone has heard about this lifter experiment
which purports to show that there is no new physics associated
with lifters.
http://www.blazelabs.com/l-vacuum.asp
If so, do you feel the experiment is definitive?
Harry
Metalic vacuum vessels and electr
Theres already an Ipod bible.
Jones Beene wrote:
I mentioned the iPod Nano the other day; and the fact that it seems to
be something more than the normal slow evolution of an entertainment
product... in that - with its combination of tiny size, long battery
life, easy connectivity to a compute
Jones Beene wrote:
No, not a misspell of 'dessert ice' (not this time anyway)...
Poser-of-the-Day: Can anyone imagine making real ice, as in
solid-water ice, but in the desert, using zero electricity and only
natural forces?
Yes I have data on that technology its quite simple and was used t
Is Ed Storms actually a Super Double Secret Dysinformation
Agent who has penetrated the white knights of Vortex-L?
(Gasp!) I suppose not, but Ed's response to my original post
on the subject of possible cold fusion suppression was a little
funny. You know, Dimitri, just a little.funny.
On th
OrionWorks wrote:
>> From: Harry Veeder
>>
>> I was wondering if anyone has heard about this lifter experiment which
>> purports to show that there is no new physics associated with lifters.
>>
>> http://www.blazelabs.com/l-vacuum.asp
>>
>> If so, do you feel the experiment is definitive?
>>
>
In reply to Harry Veeder's message of Tue, 13 Sep 2005 13:12:18
-0500:
Hi,
[snip]
>If so, do you feel the experiment is definitive?
Yes, and about time too.
Regards,
Robin van Spaandonk
In a town full of candlestick makers,
everyone lives in the light,
In a town full of thieves,
there is onl
Jones sez:
> No, not a misspell of 'dessert ice' (not this time anyway)...
...
I loved this post!
My first knee jerk reaction was to assume someone (who shall remain nameless)
was trying to pull my leg, but then, after I pondered it for a chilling
moment... hell, yeah, why shouldn't it work
- Original Message -
From: "Edmund Storms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CF Suppression?
> All very true, Mike. However, we have two kinds of waste, the spent
> rods that are stored whole and the soup that is rotting the tanks at
> Hanford. The spent rods can stay as they are or can
At 08:08 PM 9/13/2005, John Coviello wrote:
- Original Message - From: "Mitchell Swartz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Cc: "John Coviello" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 7:06 PM
Subject: Re: CF Suppression?
At 06:41 PM 9/13/2005, you wrote:
"In fact, by relying on su
On Tue, 13 Sep 2005, Jones Beene wrote:
I mentioned the iPod Nano the other day; and the fact that it seems to be
something more than the normal slow evolution of an entertainment product...
in that - with its combination of tiny size, long battery life, easy
connectivity to a computer, fast
- Original Message -
From: "Mitchell Swartz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Cc: "John Coviello" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 7:06 PM
Subject: Re: CF Suppression?
At 06:41 PM 9/13/2005, you wrote:
From: "Mitchell Swartz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cold fusion is now at t
At 05:17 PM 9/13/2005, Edmund Storms wrote:
"Once again I have no idea what Swartz is talking about. If CF is at the
engineering stage, I know of no evidence this is true."
"Only those with narrow minds fail to see that the definition of Impossible
is 'Lack of imagination and incentive'
At 06:41 PM 9/13/2005, you wrote:
From: "Mitchell Swartz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cold fusion is now at the engineering stage, well beyond the "basic"
research stage.
And as such, several devices and modifications of cold fusion can, and
will be, patented.
What is even more interesting is t
Edmund Storms wrote..
>All very true, Mike. However, we have two kinds of waste, the spent
rods that are stored whole and the soup that is rotting the tanks at
Hanford. The spent rods can stay as they are or can be buried whole. The
soup in the tanks is another matter. Sooner or later, the
I mentioned the iPod Nano the other day; and the fact that it
seems to be something more than the normal slow evolution of an
entertainment product... in that - with its combination of tiny
size, long battery life, easy connectivity to a computer, fast
downloads of tons of info, having color im
From:
RC Macaulay
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 12:00
PM
Subject: Re: CF Suppression ( copy
2)
John Coviello wrote..
> Actually, we are starting to see some seed money flow into
cold fusion with an angel investor funding Entergenics of
From: "Mitchell Swartz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cold fusion is now at the engineering stage, well beyond the "basic"
research stage.
And as such, several devices and modifications of cold fusion can, and
will be, patented.
What is even more interesting is that in the years 2003 through 2005,
OrionWorks wrote:
Assuming in the not too distant future we do discover a reasonably energy
efficient way to transmute radioactive isotopes the question then becomes
where do we do it? Yucca Mountain? It seems reasonable for me to speculate
that the actual engineering may turn out to be a giga
All very true, Mike. However, we have two kinds of waste, the spent
rods that are stored whole and the soup that is rotting the tanks at
Hanford. The spent rods can stay as they are or can be buried whole.
The soup in the tanks is another matter. Sooner or later, the
radioactive soup will get
> From: Mike Carrell
...
> There is something much more obvious that that. Transmutation
> is **known** not to happen except under high energy conditions.
> Some government money was invested in a method --very
> conventional physics -- which showed remediation of specific
> isotopes using high en
Once again I have no idea what Swartz is talking about. If CF is at the
engineering stage, I know of no evidence this is true. Swartz needs to
give the basis for this claim. In addition, I do not believe anything I
have said on Vortex can be used by the Patent office to reject a claim.
I hav
- Original Message -
From: "thomas malloy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CF Suppression?
> Ed Storms posted;
>
> For this reason, the government should have a big incentive to embrace
> transmutation, if for no other reason to get rid of radioactive waste.
> Yet, the government shows
Mentioned earlier was the interesting hybrid
energy-cycle involving Zinc + solar,developed by a cooperative of scientists
from Israel, Sweden, Switzerland and France - which is efficient and relatively
self-sustaining.
http://www.isracast.com/tech_news/090905_tech.htm
Here's another link on
> From: Harry Veeder
>
> I was wondering if anyone has heard about this lifter experiment
> which purports to show that there is no new physics associated
> with lifters.
>
> http://www.blazelabs.com/l-vacuum.asp
>
> If so, do you feel the experiment is definitive?
>
>
> Harry
It's doing a pr
Ed Storms posted;
For this reason, the government should have a big incentive to embrace
transmutation, if for no other reason to get rid of radioactive waste.
Yet, the government shows no interest. Therefore, rational
self-interest does not play a role in the government's approach. This
leaves
I was wondering if anyone has heard about this lifter experiment
which purports to show that there is no new physics associated
with lifters.
http://www.blazelabs.com/l-vacuum.asp
If so, do you feel the experiment is definitive?
Harry
Mitchell Swartz wrote:
Cold fusion is now at the engineering stage, well beyond the "basic"
research stage.
I hope so, as I said. If iESi's claims are real that is certainly true. I
await independent replication and confirmation.
And as such, several devices and modifications of cold fusio
At 11:51 AM 9/13/2005, Jed Rothwell wrote:
John Coviello wrote:
My answer would be that cold fusion is still in the basic research
stage, just starting to enter commercialization stage, so it hasn't
really caught the attention of the venture capitalists yet . . .
Right. I would go even fu
Edmund Storms wrote:
For this reason, the government should have a big incentive to embrace
transmutation, if for no other reason to get rid of radioactive waste.
Yet, the government shows no interest. Therefore, rational self-interest
does not play a role in the government's approach. This
John Coviello wrote..
> Actually, we are starting to see some seed money flow into cold
fusion with an angel investor funding Entergenics of Israel and Solar
Limited buying D2Fusion and perhaps investors providing funding to iESi (who
knows?). So, we slowly but surely seem to be turning that
No, not a misspell of 'dessert ice' (not this time anyway)...
Poser-of-the-Day: Can anyone imagine making real ice, as in
solid-water ice, but in the desert, using zero electricity and
only natural forces?
The question arose out of this interesting thread on Slashdot,
based on a recent
Time
Jones Beene wrote:
Ed,
Personally, I don't think CF is being suppressed. This would require
an intent and effort to accomplish. In contrast, I think it is simply
ignored because most people think it is not real.
Lets dispense with the term "CF" for a moment ...
you would agree, w
John Coviello wrote:
That is one of the big arguments "skeptics" use against the reality of
cold fusion. If it actually works as proponents claim, why isn't one of
those always eager venture capitalists funding research into this
technology that could be the next big thing with a massive retu
Development isn't, commercialization is. Not just CF but anything that
shows any possibility of destabilizing the world economy by attacking one of
the main support pillars (oil/energy, cheap labor, raw materials, commerce).
Just as the argument that there can be no other intelligent life forms in
Harrumph! Harrumph! 8^)
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2005 6:56 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Mild eugenics and social engineering
Further to that, you should get out more from your mansions and your
cloistered
- Original Message -
From: "Jed Rothwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 10:47 PM
Subject: Re: CF Suppression? [Copy 2?]
John Coviello writes:
This is supposed to be a capitalist society, so where are the
corporations?
Protecting their interests and marke
May be, if it does work, it just not as interesting as people make out. I'd
go down the elemental transmutation route if I were you because that seems
to be your niche.
It's a kind of CF-centric view of the world.
I posted
Bush is following the illumaniti's agenda. He behaves like a
> mind control victim.
And Steven Johnson replied;
I shall set aside the fact that you now claim Bush is behaving like
a "mind control victim In my view that's a bad enough handicap for a
president to burden the country
Title: CF Suppression?
Jed Rothwell posted;
There is no doubt such people are suppressing the field. They make no
secret of their activity. On the contrary, like Park and Zimmerman,
they brag about how they suppressed CF.
What about the banning of heavy water? I realize that large
quantities of
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