Re: [Vo]: Bruce Depalma & "Free Energy

2007-01-21 Thread Michel Jullian
Only if V or I is the Root of the Mean Square of the instantaneous value (RMS value), which is not usually what a multimeter displays in the DC setting BTW (it displays the average value). Michel - Original Message - From: "Harry Veeder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, January 2

Re: [Vo]: Bruce Depalma & "Free Energy

2007-01-21 Thread Harry Veeder
If the resistance is a constant, then would either (V^2)/(R) or (I^2)(R) equal average power? Harry Michel Jullian wrote: > As discussed here before, if any or both of the current and voltage is > constant then power can indeed be measured as simply as you said, otherwise it > can't. It is a com

Re: [Vo]: Iogen, eh?

2007-01-21 Thread Terry Blanton
On 1/21/07, Philip Winestone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Canadian "smarts" at work, eh Philip? All these Canadian smarts have no idea that the "eh" started off (or "aff") in Glasgow, my city of origin. It's actually more like "aih". Oh, CANADA! Spelled: C-eh-N-eh-D-eh. But, I *do* love hock

Re: [Vo]: Energy *Violations* using *standard* physics

2007-01-21 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Paul's message of Sun, 21 Jan 2007 09:05:43 -0800 (PST): Hi Paul, [snip] >If you place a load on >the both air coils you can collect >such energy. That's why pure inductors dissipate zero >energy; i.e., energy goes in the >inductor in the form of a magnetic field, but during >the oth

Re: [Vo]: Re:[VO]:Re: Yomiuri: Bush to promote ethanol..

2007-01-21 Thread Philip Winestone
Perfect Richard. But I still have to see Dime Box to believe it really exists... and that it has a tavern... P. At 06:38 PM 1/21/2007 -0600, you wrote: Philip wrote.. Excellent!!! How true!!! The reason is that the intent in all cases is to indoctrinate along certain predictable lines thus

[Vo]: Re:[VO]:Re: Yomiuri: Bush to promote ethanol..

2007-01-21 Thread RC Macaulay
BlankPhilip wrote.. Excellent!!! How true!!! The reason is that the intent in all cases is to indoctrinate along certain predictable lines thus creating a nice docile herd. It's not to create clear, creative thinking - usually through doubting accepted dogma then applying "lateral thinking" and

Re: [Vo]: Bruce Depalma & "Free Energy

2007-01-21 Thread Michel Jullian
As discussed here before, if any or both of the current and voltage is constant then power can indeed be measured as simply as you said, otherwise it can't. It is a common mistake (or fraud) in overunity claims to pretend that average I times average V is equal to average I*V (power) when the si

Re: [Vo]: Re: Yomiuri: Bush to promote ethanol in State of the Union

2007-01-21 Thread Philip Winestone
Excellent!!! How true!!! The reason is that the intent in all cases is to indoctrinate along certain predictable lines thus creating a nice docile herd. It's not to create clear, creative thinking - usually through doubting accepted dogma then applying "lateral thinking" and ultimately applyin

Re: [Vo]: Iogen, eh?

2007-01-21 Thread Philip Winestone
Canadian "smarts" at work, eh Philip? All these Canadian smarts have no idea that the "eh" started off (or "aff") in Glasgow, my city of origin. It's actually more like "aih". The problem with the company's approach, from some of my tentative dealings with them, is that like a lot of such co

Re: [Vo]: Bruce Depalma & "Free Energy

2007-01-21 Thread Paul
Michel Jullian wrote: > So I understood, but by DC do you mean constant value, or just not AC (not zero average) ? Constant voltage and current, constant value as you put it, with no AC. Paul > - Original Message - > From: "Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Sunday, January

Re: [Vo]: Bruce Depalma & "Free Energy

2007-01-21 Thread Michel Jullian
So I understood, but by DC do you mean constant value, or just not AC (not zero average) ? Michel - Original Message - From: "Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 9:06 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]: Bruce Depalma & "Free Energy > Michel Jullian wrote: > > - Origina

Re: [Vo]: Bruce Depalma & "Free Energy

2007-01-21 Thread Paul
Michel Jullian wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 12:36 AM > Subject: Re: [Vo]: Bruce Depalma & "Free Energy The funny think is that the N-Machine is very very easy to test >> Shhh, don't tell that to Dr

Re: [Vo]: Bruce Depalma & "Free Energy

2007-01-21 Thread Michel Jullian
- Original Message - From: "Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 12:36 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]: Bruce Depalma & "Free Energy > >> The funny think is that the N-Machine is very very > >> easy to test > > Shhh, don't tell that to Dr. Kincheloe, ***a Professor > of Ele

[Vo]: Energy *Violations* using *standard* physics

2007-01-21 Thread Paul
wPhilip Winestone wrote: > I have an intuitive feeling - totally unsubstantiated - that the law of > energy conservation is to energy, what Newton's laws were to mechanics > (or physics in general). John Berry wrote: > However this whole discussion is foolishness, you can't get free energy >

[Vo]: Iogen, eh?

2007-01-21 Thread Jones Beene
I-owe-gen, eh? > as in "I owe it all to genetics" About --Iogen-- Cellulose Ethanol Enzyme Technology Canadian "smarts" at work, eh Philip? Probably w/o the need for an ice-cold catalyst either: i.e. of the Molson's variety... yet they should still hire Mike Myers to do a little PR work for

Re: [Vo]: Re: Yomiuri: Bush to promote ethanol in State of the Union

2007-01-21 Thread Terry Blanton
On 1/21/07, Philip Winestone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: (And we too have our major sources of inertia... We call it collectively, "the government.") "Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside down. Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy knowl

Re: [Vo]: Steorn question

2007-01-21 Thread Philip Winestone
I have an intuitive feeling - totally unsubstantiated - that the law of energy conservation is to energy, what Newton's laws were to mechanics (or physics in general). I mean you can take a pound of any explosive and explain that the energy from that explosive is a direct (measurable) result o

Re: [Vo]: Re: Yomiuri: Bush to promote ethanol in State of the Union

2007-01-21 Thread Philip Winestone
Well enlighten us ! Can you name the company and the enzyme, please. The company in Ottawa is Iogen (that's an "I" not an "L"), but I'm afraid I didn't go so far as to find out the name of the enzyme; I've been remiss. (And we too have our major sources of inertia... We call it collectivel

Re: [Vo]: Steorn question

2007-01-21 Thread Wesley Bruce
Robin van Spaandonk wrote: In reply to Stephen A. Lawrence's message of Tue, 16 Jan 2007 10:00:17 -0500: Hi, [snip] Because it doesn't. It's a magnetic motor -- permanent-magnet-based engine -- and there's no mechanism for it to "steal heat" from the environment, nor any evidence whatsoev