Mmm, why do you oppose a glow discharge to higher voltage?
Michel
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From: Jones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 3:49 AM
Subject: [Vo]:Re: Josephson comment
Here is the good (and Nobel) Doctor's homepage:
Claytor glow discharge experiment, 3kV DC pulses, supports my incoming vs
outgoing surface electron catalyzed hypothesis, could be boosted if the
deuterided Pd cathode was back loaded by an electrolysis cell as in the
proposal I was telling Horace about (in the Gap fusor thread).
Michel
From
On Sep 3, 2007, at 5:13 PM, Michel Jullian wrote:
You seem to be agreeing that incoming vs outgoing surface electron
catalyzed fusion is the thing :-)
Why not. I invented it:
On Aug 9, 2007, at 2:45 PM, Horace Heffner wrote:
Very high frequency high voltage AC intervals with low duty
Michel Jullian wrote:
Mmm, why do you oppose a glow discharge to higher voltage?
oppose is not the problem- more the wording. And since it apparently
works - fine.
AFAIK - the glow regime is a lower voltage phenomenon, and its
advantage is essentially in accomplishing LENR with less input
See:
http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/ClaytorTNtritiumgen.pdf
I sent this two hours ago but it did not appear.
I meant to say, See Three:
http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/ClaytorTNtritiumgen.pdf
http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/ClaytorTNtritiumpro.pdf
http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/ClaytorTNtritiumprob.pdf
See:
http://lenr-canr.org/News.htm#Downloads
The trend is discouraging.
Here are the numbers from the spreadsheet:
Month+Year, Downloads
Aug-05, 13289
Sep-05, 12603
Oct-05, 20550
Nov-05, 15188
Dec-05, 16601
Jan-06, 17851
Feb-06, 15707
Mar-06, 19569
Apr-06, 30382
May-06, 18951
Jun-06, 19373
From Jed
See:
http://lenr-canr.org/News.htm#Downloads
The trend is discouraging.
Here are the numbers from the spreadsheet:
Month+Year, Downloads
Aug-05, 13289
Sep-05, 12603
Oct-05, 20550
Nov-05, 15188
Dec-05, 16601
Jan-06, 17851
Feb-06, 15707
Mar-06, 19569
Apr-06, 30382
[Posted previously but apparently didn't go through -- rejpeged smaller
and trying again...]
Jed Rothwell wrote:
See:
http://lenr-canr.org/News.htm#Downloads
The trend is discouraging.
Here are the numbers from the spreadsheet:
Month+Year, Downloads
Aug-05, 13289
Sep-05, 12603
Oct-05,
CNN.COM Article on future flying wind farms.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/science/08/31/sky.turbines/index.html
http://tinyurl.com/2lqyyr
U.S. demonstration in three years.
Forty-three such FEG [Flying Electric Generator] arrays -- each
comprising 600 FEGs -- would, he [Australian engineering
On Sep 4, 2007, at 2:57 AM, Michel Jullian wrote:
Claytor glow discharge experiment, 3kV DC pulses, supports my
incoming vs outgoing surface electron catalyzed hypothesis, could
be boosted if the deuterided Pd cathode was back loaded by an
electrolysis cell as in the proposal I was
OrionWorks wrote:
CNN.COM Article on future flying wind farms.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/science/08/31/sky.turbines/index.html
http://tinyurl.com/2lqyyr
This describes the SkyWindPower device that we have discussed here
before. I think this is more practical and promising than the
On Sep 4, 2007, at 7:32 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
See:
http://lenr-canr.org/News.htm#Downloads
The trend is discouraging.
Here are the numbers from the spreadsheet:
Month+Year, Downloads
Aug-05, 13289
[snip]
Aug-06, 15544
[snip]
Aug-07, 14699
It's not so bad if you look at the August year
Maybe we should de-politicize DoE - make it closer to a private entity,
and fund it independently by forcing an excess-profits tax on the oil
companies, to pay for a completely independent department, which oil of
partisan politics cannot influence in either staffing or in decision
making.
Yeah!
Jed Rothwell wrote:
OrionWorks wrote:
CNN.COM Article on future flying wind farms.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/science/08/31/sky.turbines/index.html
http://tinyurl.com/2lqyyr
This describes the SkyWindPower device that we have discussed here
before. I think this is more practical and
I can't multiply, it seems.
20 times 10,000 is 200,000, not 2,000,000.
That's a much more reasonable level of force.
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
Jed Rothwell wrote:
OrionWorks wrote:
CNN.COM Article on future flying wind farms.
That message was intended for a friend of mine, not this board, but
on the other hand everyone here is cordially invited to attend the
Italian conference. And of course you should be familiar with Corey
and his report.
I hate to insult the other conference participants by making them
seem
I wrote:
1 FEG produces 20 MW, so that's 12 GW per group and 516 GW total.
That's about right.
Actually, total U.S. generator nameplate capacity is 1,067 GW, with
1,015 GW net winter capacity, but many generators are too expensive
to run except for brief periods during during peak demand,
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
So is Brazil pursuing this?
Good question. Dunno...
The company buying the technology was called: GPC or Grupo Peixoto de
Castro which is an oil company. Here is their site:
http://www.gpc.com.br/
I can't find anything there on a quick searchSounds like a
On Sep 4, 2007, at 9:08 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/2lqyyr
The authors estimate that it would take 43 groups of 600 of these
FEGs to power the U.S. 1 FEG produces 20 MW, so that's 12 GW per
group and 516 GW total. That's about right. I do not think 12 GW
groups would
Inspired by Jed's recent comment:
...close enough for government work.
...I offer the following precautionary tale, recently received from an
old friend, a (retired) government employee.
* * * * * * * * *
A Montana cowboy was overseeing his herd in a remote mountainous
pasture when suddenly a
On Sep 4, 2007, at 9:33 AM, Jones Beene wrote:
Ever heard of BioTen? (not to be confused with the vitamin, biotin)
Looks like the TVA didn't like the competition:
http://topics.energycentral.com/centers/gentech/view/detail.cfm?aid=19
http://tinyurl.com/yuhe3d
Moved to Portland at one
OrionWorks wrote:
...I offer the following precautionary tale, recently received from an
old friend, a (retired) government employee.
This does not sound like a joke from a government employee to me. The
butt of the joke does not resemble any federal or state employee or
official I have
Jed sez:
...I offer the following precautionary tale, recently
received from an old friend, a (retired) government
employee.
This does not sound like a joke from a government employee
to me. The butt of the joke does not resemble any federal or
state employee or official I have ever met,
Yes - the internal politics of this sound strange, since one report has
TVA as a patent holder; but assuming they were not - the technology
itself sounds very interesting in view of the fact that many thousands
of people (mostly rural) own and swear-by wood pellet stoves... Home
Depot carries
http://www.panaceauniversity.org/D14.pdf
yep its the meyer/lawton water fuel cell using resonant electrolysis,
again. but they've been tweaking it even further.
the people at http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3079 seem very very
keen, even hopeful that the whole WFC issue will be cracked
OrionWorks wrote:
Inspired by Jed's recent comment:
A Montana cowboy was overseeing his herd in a remote mountainous
pasture when suddenly a brand-new BMW advanced out of a dust cloud
Thanks for the laugh Steven.
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Wood Pellets Prices 2007 price: Walmart
Published Price: $3.00 per bag (40 lbs) So this is $150 per dry ton
equivalent, but does not include delivery.
This works out to about $9.50 per million BTU.
In the winter of 2007, the price of natural gas will be higher than that
for most homeowners
Horace Heffner wrote:
It probably isn't necessary to locate in North Dakota.
Maybe not. North Dakota has the most wind at ground level, but I do
not know if there is as much variation at high altitude.
Based on the map of high altitude wind linked to the SkyWindPower
site, I would say
Hi Esa
http://www.panaceauniversity.org/D14.pdf
The problem here is that the heat content of the gas produced is
unknown. Until it is known, all comments that you receive will be almost
worthless.
This Lawton replication has been around for over a year and Lawton was
asked to measure
This joke describes a dot-com millionaire type, not government employee.
When I heard it first, the yuppie was a consultant which makes sense...
Nick Palmer wrote:
This joke describes a dot-com millionaire type, not government employee.
When I heard it first, the yuppie was a consultant which makes sense...
Yup, it does. A government bureaucrat would be prohibited from
accepting a calf worth more than $50, whereas consultants are
Modern coal-fueled power plants pulverize coal into an injectable
powder. A huge vortex is created from the burning coal powder. The
vortex containment vessel is lined with small steel tubes which port
water to be superheated by the flaming vortex. That water flash boils
onto a steam turbine to
On Tuesday 04 September 2007 17:15, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Horace Heffner wrote:
It probably isn't necessary to locate in North Dakota.
Maybe not. North Dakota has the most wind at ground level, but I do
not know if there is as much variation at high altitude.
Based on the map of high
Bear sez:
...
How about a 'nuther suggestion. Put the wind farm aloft in the vicinity of the
White House. More wind there than anywhere, especially in election years.
But then the wind was blowin pretty hard in the Minnesota Twin Cities Airport
restrooms recently as well.
heh heh
Esa Ruoho wrote:
what does the vortex list say in light of both the thread and the D14
file?
They are awaiting the results of my replication
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Scientists generate 'hydrogen on demand'
Purdue researchers develop technique by adding water to aluminium/gallium
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Robert Jaques, vnunet.com 28 Aug 2007
US scientists have developed a technique to produce 'hydrogen on demand' to
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