Re: [Vo]:something to think about

2007-09-16 Thread thomas malloy
thomas malloy wrote: Standing Bear wrote: On Saturday 15 September 2007 02:12, you wrote: Standing Bear wrote: On Friday 14 September 2007 14:02, Jed Rothwell wrote: thomas malloy wrote As for stealing one, forget it in the United States unless one's group is prepared to los

Re: [Vo]:Jacques Vallee on C2C AM on Monday night, 9-17-07!

2007-09-16 Thread thomas malloy
OrionWorks wrote: From: thomas malloy I'm a big fan of Dr. Vallee's, I read several of his books. I just finished Journey to Magonia. I'm going to try to call in to the program. Hello Thomas, There are few who have as much insight that Mr. Vallee has on this mysterious subject. If you

[Vo]:STEORN in the news... indirectly

2007-09-16 Thread OrionWorks
Hard to tell. It's possible STEORN may gearing up again to do something soon – or perhaps not. Some indirect hints: http://freeenergytracker.blogspot.com/2007/09/in-flux.html Notice STEORN's LOGO appears to be one of the sponsors for the Kinetica "IN FLUX" presentation. Or perhaps it's just goo

Re: [Vo]:Re: Speculators promoting palladium

2007-09-16 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: >Palladium production is 171 tons per year. There >is no way that would be enough produce all of our energy . . . >film. However, a catalytic converter is a very destructive >environment, with smoke and very high speed moving gas, that erodes >the Pd. The inside of a Pd cell will be c

Re: [Vo]:Jacques Vallee on C2C AM on Monday night, 9-17-07!

2007-09-16 Thread OrionWorks
> From: thomas malloy > > I'm a big fan of Dr. Vallee's, I read several of his books. I just > finished Journey to Magonia. I'm going to try to call in to the program. Hello Thomas, There are few who have as much insight that Mr. Vallee has on this mysterious subject. If you haven't already you

Re: [Vo]:Re: Speculators promoting palladium

2007-09-16 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene wrote: >> If other methods do not work, and we must use palladium, > > >But according to Dufour and others who have looked at Uranium as the >active electrode in side-by-side comparison, there is a 400-500% >increase in heat output with U, compared with Pd. Yes. Promising results ha

[Vo]:Altering plasma recombination time

2007-09-16 Thread David Jonsson
Hi Since relaxation time can be altered I wonder if plasma recombination time can be altered as well. The two effects are similar. Relaxation times can be altered with microwaves. I would really need that. I also need to know how to make plasma around a body with discharges and UV light. The di

Re: [Vo]:This is a must see, please

2007-09-16 Thread Jones Beene
Vortician Alert: Ron Stiffler was joking a bit with the previous posting, although it serves as a good caveat for the garage inventor who thinks he can whip up a WFC in a few hours. Actually the hydrogen series that is truly a "must see" is just underway on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/wa

Re: [Vo]:Re: Speculators promoting palladium

2007-09-16 Thread Jones Beene
Jed Rothwell wrote: Michel Jullian wrote: in the long-term palladium will be cheaper. Well this doesn't follow, as the demand for CF could be higher than that for catalytic converters for what we know. But as you said other metals might work. If other methods do not work, and we must u

Re: [Vo]:Re: Speculators promoting palladium

2007-09-16 Thread Jed Rothwell
Michel Jullian wrote: > in the long-term palladium will be cheaper. Well this doesn't follow, as the demand for CF could be higher than that for catalytic converters for what we know. But as you said other metals might work. If other methods do not work, and we must use palladium, then cold

Re: [Vo]:Re: OU Miracle Tube

2007-09-16 Thread Jones Beene
It is not unheard of for an underfunded venture or enterprise which started out with dubious intentions, and clearly copied the experiments of others to raise capital (as did Gardner Watts a few years ago without mentioning that the technology was "borrowed") - to get lucky and mature away from

Re: [Vo]:OU Miracle Tube

2007-09-16 Thread gbaldwin
The company is saying one thing but Ecclkes himself said: "A plasma discharge is generated in the electrolyte to release energy by fusing the atoms together." http://www.rexresearch.com/eccles/1eccles.htm#patent - Original Message - From: "Terry Blanton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sen

Re: [Vo]:OU Miracle Tube

2007-09-16 Thread George Baldwin
The company is saying one thing but Eccles himself said in his patent application: "A plasma discharge is generated in the electrolyte to release energy by fusing the atoms together." http://www.rexresearch.com/eccles/1eccles.htm#patent - Original Message - From: "Terry Blanton" <[E

[Vo]:Re: OU Miracle Tube

2007-09-16 Thread Terry Blanton
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/05/18/ncell18.xml&sSheet=/news/2003/05/18/ixhome.html http://snipurl.com/1qs7w "We are absolutely not saying this is cold fusion, or that we have found a way round the law of energy conservation," said Christopher Davies, the managing dire

[Vo]:Re: OU Miracle Tube

2007-09-16 Thread Terry Blanton
Their web site: http://www.ecowatts.co.uk/ On 9/16/07, Terry Blanton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/technology/technology.html?in_article_id=481996&in_page_id=1965 > > http://snipurl.com/1qs74 > > "The system - developed by scientists at a firm called

[Vo]:OU Miracle Tube

2007-09-16 Thread Terry Blanton
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/technology/technology.html?in_article_id=481996&in_page_id=1965 http://snipurl.com/1qs74 "The system - developed by scientists at a firm called Ecowatts in a nondescript laboratory on an industrial estate at Lancing, West Sussex - involves passing an

Re: [Vo]:This is a must see, please

2007-09-16 Thread Jones Beene
For those who missed the movie "Backdraft" ... or to add a little drama to data-logging ;-) Stiffler Scientific wrote: For all those watchers from the woods that are want-a-be hydrogen inventors, please have your wills in order :-) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isoR_Jfw1hg

[Vo]:This is a must see, please

2007-09-16 Thread Stiffler Scientific
For all those watchers from the woods that are want-a-be hydrogen inventors, please have your wills in order :-) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isoR_Jfw1hg

Re: [Vo]:Deflation Fusion, Draft#20

2007-09-16 Thread Jones Beene
Horace Heffner wrote: Lots of updates have occurred to the Deflation Fusion article, which is now at Draft #20. Horace, Nice argument and presentation, even though some will remain unconvinced. Please do not take the following as being overly critical. There is deep thinking involved on you