Re: [Vo]:Re: "Cold" electricity

2007-10-23 Thread William Beaty
On Tue, 23 Oct 2007, Harry Veeder wrote: > Would Ron's apparatus cast such a shadow? It might, but the effects would only appear several wavelengths away (like hundreds of feet at 18MHz) > If the power source is really RF he could look for the shadow by making a > second apparatus and moving it

Re: [Vo]:Re: "Cold" electricity

2007-10-23 Thread Harry Veeder
On 23/10/2007 9:55 PM, William Beaty wrote: > > All this stuff is part of well-accepted antenna theory, and is taught in > some fields/waves courses for EEs. But it isn't generally known in other > disciplines. Physics students have a hard time understanding why some > subatomic particles have

Re: [Vo]:Re: "Cold" electricity

2007-10-23 Thread William Beaty
On Tue, 23 Oct 2007, William Beaty wrote: > For enormous Q-factors such as with superconductors, the effective > aperture is about a quarter wavelength, and such an antenna absorbs RF > energy in an area of 1/8 wavelength squared. Oops, that should be 1/16 wavelength squared. For 18MHz, that's a

Re: [Vo]:Re: "Cold" electricity

2007-10-23 Thread William Beaty
On Tue, 23 Oct 2007, Jones Beene wrote: > Last night he took a Luxton light meter and singled > out one LED and took a measurement. He recorded the > reading and then took that same LED from the circuit > and placed a 1K series resistor to it and connected it > to a variable DC supply. He adjusted

Re: [Vo]:Re: "Cold" electricity

2007-10-23 Thread William Beaty
On Tue, 23 Oct 2007, Jed Rothwell wrote: > I know little about electrical engineering, but > surely we can resolve all questions about this > device fairly easily. If the device can be scaled > up a little, and power can be ramped up to a few > watts that will rule out things like radio tower > tr

Re: [Vo]:Re: "Cold" electricity

2007-10-23 Thread William Beaty
On Tue, 23 Oct 2007, Harry Veeder wrote: > On 22/10/2007 10:48 PM, William Beaty wrote: > > Small resonant coil-antennas behave as if they were extremely large, like > > long-wire antennas. But any unknown transmitter that's supplying the > > power would have to be fairly close and not miles away

Re: [Vo]:energy products company

2007-10-23 Thread thomas malloy
Well, if there is no potential cash flow, there will be no funding, eh? R.C.Macaulay wrote: OPT appears to have done their homework well. Not only have they made two public offerings, they have some good partners and blessings of the US Navy. At the end of the day the device remains a sea bouy

Re: [Vo]:Re: "Cold" electricity

2007-10-23 Thread Terry Blanton
On 10/23/07, Robin van Spaandonk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On a tangent, at what frequencies does HAARP transmit? 2.8 to 10 MHz Terry

Re: [Vo]:Re: "Cold" electricity

2007-10-23 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Tue, 23 Oct 2007 09:23:50 -0700 (PDT): Hi, [snip] >The low powered AM radio station business nearby is >not a very likely power source. If the near field is >about a 1/3 wave length, taking the broadcast band, >figuring the wave lengths and then the uV per mete

Re: [Vo]:Re: "Cold" electricity

2007-10-23 Thread Jones Beene
--- Michel > Glad I was of some help. Belated thanks to you, Michel, as you seldom get enough credit for the little things you do, even if they had already been underway ;-) > 3V per LED, is this correct? That is ~ what it works out to, which is slightly less than the spec for the part, but a

Re: [Vo]:Re: "Cold" electricity

2007-10-23 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Michel Jullian wrote: I heard that some people living close to the Eiffel tower manage to derive their electrical heating power from its radio emitters, but it may be a legend. And I've heard that you guys don't really get winter over there, so it's not saying much to say they can heat t

Re: [Vo]:Re: "Cold" electricity

2007-10-23 Thread Jones Beene
--- Hi Jack Thanks for the suggestions. I will pass them along, although Ron is still subscribed here and replies to postings, when he has time. Many of my secondhand postings may be misleading for several reasons. One, they are often put together from a number of messages spread over several d

Re: [Vo]:Re: "Cold" electricity

2007-10-23 Thread Jed Rothwell
John Winterflood wrote: If a pie dish lid matching the lower one is clipped with crocodile clips on the top (with a hole to see if the LEDs are shining) then we have a pretty good Faraday cage with a single wire entering it. Heck, you could use a heavy iron frying pan. Just darken the room an

[Vo]:Re: "Cold" electricity

2007-10-23 Thread Michel Jullian
- Original Message - From: "Jones Beene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 6:23 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: "Cold" electricity > Good post, Jed. > > Let me add some new information from DrS: > > Last night he took a Luxton light meter and singled > out one LED and to

[Vo]:"How Cold Fusion Works"

2007-10-23 Thread Jed Rothwell
See: http://www.i-sis.org.uk/HowColdFusionWorks.php Quotes: How Cold Fusion Works Many ways for atomic nuclei to come close coherently and fuse together in condensed matter. Dr. Mae-Wan Ho Cold fusion with ease The surprising thing about cold fusion is how easily it could be made to hap

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Interesting moving optical illusion

2007-10-23 Thread OrionWorks
Jed sez: ... > Perhaps I can entice a larger number of readers here to look at the > image. Let me point out that the image in question is a black and > white silhouette image of a rather buxom young woman doing a pirouette. > > - Jed I know a computer animated POSER figurine when I see one! ;-)

Re: [Vo]:Re: "Cold" electricity

2007-10-23 Thread John Winterflood
Hi Jones, Glad to see that someone has Ron's ear! It certainly seems a remarkable circuit that can drive several LEDs to reasonable brightness with power apparently drawn through the resistance of ones body and fingers (video #7) without feeling a tingle! I doubt if Bill would be willing to l

Re: [Vo]:Re: "Cold" electricity

2007-10-23 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene wrote: This is looking to me like a non-issue, but YES we all agree that the next step, when time permits, will be to take the setup to a remote area with very little RF. That seems like an extreme & expensive step. I think that increasing the power output or using a Faraday cage

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Interesting moving optical illusion

2007-10-23 Thread Jed Rothwell
Harry Veeder wrote: I found if I waited patiently for it to change direction it did. Try blinking. It works for me. Or look away for a fraction of a second. Perhaps I can entice a larger number of readers here to look at the image. Let me point out that the image in question is a black and

Re: [Vo]:Re: "Cold" electricity

2007-10-23 Thread OrionWorks
On 10/23/07, Jones Beene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... > Now remember he can drive many LEDs with this > circuit-- > the actual limit is unknown, as the more he adds, the > more it seems to "want" BUT catch-22 this is tedious > to do, since matching voltage drop per diode is > necessary. There i

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Interesting moving optical illusion

2007-10-23 Thread Harry Veeder
Concentration didn't work for me. I found if I waited patiently for it to change direction it did. counter clockwise --> clockwise --> counterclockwise. In this case, a biorhythm might be responsible for a change in my perception. Also there seemed to be a brief interval when I sensed my perce

Re: [Vo]:Re: "Cold" electricity

2007-10-23 Thread Jones Beene
Good post, Jed. Let me add some new information from DrS: Last night he took a Luxton light meter and singled out one LED and took a measurement. He recorded the reading and then took that same LED from the circuit and placed a 1K series resistor to it and connected it to a variable DC supply. H

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Interesting moving optical illusion

2007-10-23 Thread OrionWorks
I'm pretty much in agreement, Jed. I'm a latent lefty. What I was not formally trained to perform I learned to do naturally with my left hand. However, I write with my right hand because I was formally trained back in kindergarten to use my right hand. I immediately saw the figure rotating in a c

Re: [Vo]:Re: "Cold" electricity

2007-10-23 Thread Jed Rothwell
I know little about electrical engineering, but surely we can resolve all questions about this device fairly easily. If the device can be scaled up a little, and power can be ramped up to a few watts that will rule out things like radio tower transmissions as the source of energy. We would al

[Vo]:OFF TOPIC Interesting moving optical illusion

2007-10-23 Thread Jed Rothwell
See: http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,22556281-661,00.html Here is an image that appears to be spinning either clockwise or counterclockwise. Supposedly, your perception of the direction depends upon whether you are primarily right brain or left brain oriented. The list of attri