----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jones Beene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 6:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: "Cold" electricity


> Good post, Jed.
>
> Let me add some new information from DrS:
>
> Last night he took a Luxton light meter and singled
> out one LED and took a measurement. He recorded the
> reading and then took that same LED from the circuit
> and placed a 1K series resistor to it and connected it
> to a variable DC supply. He adjusted until the Luxton
> read the same, and then recorded the current. Current
> was 23.2mA.

Glad I was of some help.

> So what is wrong with this? Do any vorts think this
> was an inaccurate way to measure (and then to
> guesstimate) the power being dissipated in the circuit
> when operating?

It's accurate enough for the purpose. So what was the voltage, and hence the 
power V*23.2E-3, per LED, and hence the total power 150 times that? If total 
is 11W as you seem to suggest below, that's 11/150= 73mW per LED, i.e. about 
3V per LED, is this correct?

> Now remember he can drive many LEDs with this
> circuit-- 
> the actual limit is unknown, as the more he adds, the
> more it seems to "want" BUT catch-22 this is tedious
> to do, since matching voltage drop per diode is
> necessary. There is too much variation otherwise- to
> hold a resonance. He had 1000 LEDs from the initial
> shipment and has been able to match 150 of them close
> enough to be powered by the circuit (two banks of 75
> in series).
>
> The low powered AM radio station business nearby is
> not a very likely power source. If the near field is
> about a 1/3 wave length, taking the broadcast band,
> figuring the wave lengths and then the uV per meter
> density to get an apparent 11 watts would mean he
> could reach out and touch the tower (or climb up a few
> feet ;-).

Surely the emitted power has been taken into account too, how much is it, 
and how far is it?

> This is looking to me like a non-issue, but YES we all
> agree that the next step, when time permits, will be
> to take the setup to a remote area with very little
> RF.

I heard that some people living close to the Eiffel tower manage to derive 
their electrical heating power from its radio emitters, but it may be a 
legend.

Michel 


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