Ah -- the coming age of the "molecular full Monty" and ingraining of
illogic into modern society... This goes far beyond quirky humor.
James D. Watson, the discoverer of of DNA and winner of the Nobel prize,
is one of several notable, but now disgraced, scientists who have fallen
from favor a
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From: Hoyt A. Stearns Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 5:51 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Mostly Wasted
As I recall from thermodynamics courses, you can increase the efficiency of
turbomachinery using intercooling ( cool
Terry Blanton wrote:
>It is a shame that such plants were allowed to be constructed such
>that they substituted a capital investment at the expense of the
>quality of life upstream.
You mean downstream. Right?
- Jed
Indeed, this issue is what has led to the water shortage in Atlanta.
Water extracted from the Chattahoochee River must be returned with no
more than a 3 degree temperature rise. Those power plants which were
designed with no cooling towers rely upon the water volume to maintain
a constant power ou
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From: Horace Heffner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 12:03 PM
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On Dec 11, 2007, at 1:17 PM, Jeff Fink wrote:
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> From: Horace Heffner [mailto:[EMAIL PR
As I recall from thermodynamics courses, you can increase the efficiency of
turbomachinery using intercooling ( cooling the fluid between each
compressor stage ( for gas turbines )), and reheat ( adding heat between
each stage in the expansion array ). This brings the cycle closer to a
Carnot cycl
On Dec 12, 2007, at 8:58 AM, Jones Beene wrote:
Horace
Do you know what temperature is available post turbine, prior to
cooling? That means prior to the condenser, which is part of the
cooling process, true?
Most often, at least in modern plants, this heat is already being
utilized by
On Dec 12, 2007, at 9:03 AM, Terry Blanton wrote:
According to this:
http://www.dresser-rand.com/steam/calc/main.asp
they can design steam turbine electric generators that have a
condensed output.
Yes, but the idea is to replace the condenser with a device which
uses sterling engine/gen
As I recall, triple expansion marine steam engines produced condensed
liquid output. They had to, because the water was recycled. They have
any amount of cooling water on ships, but not much space for heat
exchanges or radiators.
Actually, I personally don't recall -- they were before my time,
Horace
Do you know what temperature is available post turbine, prior to
cooling? That means prior to the condenser, which is part of the
cooling process, true?
Most often, at least in modern plants, this heat is already being
utilized by a "recuperator" and is therefore unavailable.
Jones
According to this:
http://www.dresser-rand.com/steam/calc/main.asp
they can design steam turbine electric generators that have a condensed output.
Terry
On Dec 12, 2007 12:03 PM, Horace Heffner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On Dec 11, 2007, at 1:17 PM, Jeff Fink wrote:
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> > -Origi
On Dec 11, 2007, at 1:17 PM, Jeff Fink wrote:
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From: Horace Heffner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 4:34 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
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On Dec 11, 2007, at 12:00 PM, Jeff Fink wrote:
Waste power plan
I guess you mean that beyond the ~100 pre-capture catalyzed fusions, it could
be the cause for
further nuclear reactions, that it would catalyze in its new life as a heavy
orbiting electron in
matter?
But this new life is short isn't it, of the order of microseconds only, before
it decays as
Robin van Spaandonk wrote:-
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The Forum wasn't specifically about this technology announcement - that
would have been just the icing on the cake of the much larger itinerary.
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