Re: [Vo]:J. Mueller: nuclear terrorism unlikely

2008-02-12 Thread Harry Veeder
On 12/2/2008 8:59 AM, R.C.Macaulay wrote: > Why depend on obsolete fiction written by SK when we have the straight word > from the bible. Tomorrows news, accurate reporting, no " probably" about it. > The preferred weapons of destruction have always been jealously, vanity , > lust and greed. We do

Re: [Vo]:Wind-Switching.: Making butanol for < a dollar a gallon

2008-02-12 Thread Michael Foster
While it might be true that we need new engines for most of the new fuels, butanol can be used in gasoline engines with little or no modification, making Jones' idea doubly useful. --- "R.C.Macaulay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: (snip) > > In this admosphere and culture, don't expect results. Expe

Re: [Vo]:Wind-Switching.: Making butanol for < a dollar a gallon

2008-02-12 Thread Nick Palmer
Jones, far be it from me to knock any idea to expand the use of wind power but wouldn't it be simpler to use a pyrolysing/gasification process to turn the cellulose into syngas? This has the added benefit that part of the biomass feedstock could be turned into bio-char which is being researched

Re: [Vo]:Wind-Switching.: Making butanol for < a dollar a gallon

2008-02-12 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to R.C.Macaulay's message of Tue, 12 Feb 2008 11:57:49 -0600: Hi, [snip] >I suggested the design approach to a new engine would be by designing a " >transmission" with an engine inside rather than an engine with a >transmission inside.That ridiculus remark almost got me kicked outa the

Re: [Vo]:Wind-Switching.: Making butanol for < a dollar a gallon

2008-02-12 Thread Jones Beene
--- Michael : > While it might be true that we need new engines for most of the new fuels, butanol can be used in gasoline engines with little or no modification, making Jones' idea doubly useful. Indeed. It even gives us slightly better mileage and less toxic emissions in older gasoline engines

Re: [Vo]:Wind-Switching.: Making butanol for < a dollar a gallon

2008-02-12 Thread Mike Carrell
- Original Message - From: "Robin van Spaandonk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sounds like an electric motor in each wheel. ;) MC: A Japanese group has built an all electric car with stunning performance, using eight in-wheel motors and lithium -ion-cost-no-object batteries. There is a limi

Re: [Vo]:Wind-Switching.: Making butanol for < a dollar a gallon

2008-02-12 Thread Jones Beene
--- Nick > but wouldn't it be simpler to use a > pyrolysing/gasification process to turn > the cellulose into syngas? Simpler yes, and it would be a lower initial investment... perhaps it is a good way to start-out, but significant CO2 is produced; whereas with the aqua-gen type of conversion,

Re: [Vo]:J. Mueller: nuclear terrorism unlikely

2008-02-12 Thread Harry Veeder
On 12/2/2008 1:20 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: > On 12/2/2008 8:59 AM, R.C.Macaulay wrote: > >> Why depend on obsolete fiction written by SK when we have the straight word >> from the bible. Tomorrows news, accurate reporting, no " probably" about it. >> The preferred weapons of destruction have alway

RE: [Vo]:Re: Ocean glider uses ocean heat differentials

2008-02-12 Thread Lawrence de Bivort
But what use might this device be? Random 'walks' through the ocean, which seems to be what it is used for, but beyond that? With only one knot of speed, no matter how it was guided, the thing if caught in the Gulf Stream in Florida it would end up off the coast of Portugal before its batteries r

RE: [Vo]:J. Mueller: nuclear terrorism unlikely

2008-02-12 Thread Rhong Dhong
I just took a quick look at a website and found this: http://online.sfsu.edu/~rone/GEessays/killervirus.html [start of extract] 1900 GMT, 10 January 2001 New Scientist Online News A virus that kills every one of its victims, by wiping out part of their immune system, has been accidentally crea

[Vo]:Re: Ocean glider uses ocean heat differentials

2008-02-12 Thread Michel Jullian
Good point. Having air inside must be indispensable anyway to offset the weight of the metal hull and batteries. Michel - Original Message - From: "Robin van Spaandonk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 3:07 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Ambient temperature variations pow

[Vo]:OT (sort of) Minnesotans For Global Warming Song

2008-02-12 Thread OrionWorks
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[Vo]:Wind-Switching.: Making butanol for < a dollar a gallon

2008-02-12 Thread Jones Beene
One further thought on a partial, practical and simple but innovative solution - to the over-use of fossil fuels in the USA: Putting wind to work on switchgrass farms. Sounds crazy at first, so let me explain. Wind energy is the solution everyone wants, if logistics did not get in the way. It is

RE: [Vo]:J. Mueller: nuclear terrorism unlikely

2008-02-12 Thread Rhong Dhong
--- Lawrence de Bivort <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Maybe someone will invent a 'stupid-people' virus > and do us all a favor. An engineered virus that is precise enough to target, say, melanin, may be science fiction at the moment, but it is certainly the way to go for any government (terrorist

RE: [Vo]:Sez Here, Entire U.S. Could Blow Up At Any Moment

2008-02-12 Thread Lawrence de Bivort
Just for the Record, MY G-D is cool with me and has promised me and my descendants for eternity all of France. I am allowed to bring up to 21 friends with me, and have decided the best way to proceed is to sell these 21 places to the highest bidder. What could be fairer? I mean, what is Eternal Sa

RE: [Vo]:J. Mueller: nuclear terrorism unlikely

2008-02-12 Thread Lawrence de Bivort
Maybe someone will invent a 'stupid-people' virus and do us all a favor. -Original Message- From: Rhong Dhong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 7:33 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:J. Mueller: nuclear terrorism unlikely --- Robin van Spaandonk <[EM

Re: [Vo]:J. Mueller: nuclear terrorism unlikely

2008-02-12 Thread Rhong Dhong
--- Robin van Spaandonk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I agree whole heartedly. By far the most dangerous > would be a lethal virus, > rapidly spreading from person to person. Such a > virus could easily wipe out a > large percentage of the population I don't know how far they've gotten with

Re: [Vo]:Sez Here, Entire U.S. Could Blow Up At Any Moment

2008-02-12 Thread Nick Palmer
My faithful friend Thomas wrote:- <> LOL. No, they don't. I trawled though pages of REALLY BIG PRINT and FUNNY COLOURED FONTS and BIBLICAL PROPHECY. This site claims that the whole of the U.S. is going to blow up because the natural gas reservoir which apparently underlies ALL of your land, a

Re: [Vo]:J. Mueller: nuclear terrorism unlikely

2008-02-12 Thread R.C.Macaulay
Why depend on obsolete fiction written by SK when we have the straight word from the bible. Tomorrows news, accurate reporting, no " probably" about it. The preferred weapons of destruction have always been jealously, vanity , lust and greed. We doan need no badge.!. we got JVLG Richard So Rh

Re: [Vo]:Wind-Switching.: Making butanol for < a dollar a gallon

2008-02-12 Thread thomas malloy
Jones Beene wrote: One further thought on a partial, practical and simple but innovative solution - to the over-use of fossil fuels in the USA: Putting wind to work on switchgrass farms. Indian Reservations, which need the jobs and investment. Too bad the geographical areas which would benefit