[Vo]:Diode array 080410

2008-04-11 Thread Charles M. Brown
Vorts, The diode array is still available for development. It is said that the Second Law of Thermodynamics forbids devices that absorb heat while releasing electrical power but I don't see how this general law actually has a real ability to prevent diodes in the diode array from

Re: [Vo]:Burning our food for fuel

2008-04-11 Thread OrionWorks
From Harry Veeder: Burning stuff for power is so archaic. harry Indeed. And Sir Arthur' suggested we learn how to eat oil instead of burning it. Jed, was that succulent comment from Profiles From The Future? Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks

Re: [Vo]:Re: Algae: 'The ultimate in renewable energy'

2008-04-11 Thread R C Macaulay
Howdy Jones, Just returned from a reunion meet for ex members of the state water planning group where I listened to some interesting arguments for algae to bio-fuel production from sewage plants. Never can happen because it would involve a municipal public function and an atmosphere generated

[Vo]:Re: Algae: 'The ultimate in renewable energy'

2008-04-11 Thread Jones Beene
--- Richard, Yes, I agree with you that the political problems of using existing sewage plants and ponds for Algoil range from high-to-insurmountable. I got a cold shoulder from a call placed to the local plant here, which just happens to be perfectly sited for such a dual use. However, if

Re: [Vo]:Re: Algae: 'The ultimate in renewable energy'

2008-04-11 Thread R C Macaulay
Howdy Jones, We have an ideal site for an bio plant as you described. Alcoa-Rockdale , just northeast of Austin Texas. 60,000 acres, old lignite strip mine and electricpower gen plant. Alcoa wants to decommission it. By the looks of Alcoa performance on Wall St. Its surprising one of their

Re: [Vo]:Re: Algae: 'The ultimate in renewable energy'

2008-04-11 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Fri, 11 Apr 2008 11:44:10 -0700 (PDT): Hi, [snip] The very shallow open-pond is preferable in areas where there is plenty of water, so that evaporation is not a problem. If you have every seen a sliding-form curbing machine in action, then you can realize how

Re: [Vo]:Re: Algae: 'The ultimate in renewable energy'

2008-04-11 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Fri, 11 Apr 2008 11:44:10 -0700 (PDT): Hi, [snip] fed with the cheapest possible carbon source, which is NOT going to be airborne CO2, unfortunately, but could be powdered lignite, or other subgrade of coal+minerals ($30 ton + shipping) You have just found

Re: [Vo]:Re: Algae: 'The ultimate in renewable energy'

2008-04-11 Thread Nick Palmer
Jones, you are very clever but the main reason to look at Algoil biofuels etc is to try to reduce the de-sequestration of fossil carbon. Using a lignite source will just not cut the mustard! I know that some Americans are getting excited about freeing themselves from the yoke of OPEC and, from

Re: [Vo]:Burning our food for fuel

2008-04-11 Thread Michael Foster
--- On Thu, 4/10/08, Stephen A. Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Stephen A. Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Vo]:Burning our food for fuel To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Date: Thursday, April 10, 2008, 8:14 PM Quite some time back someone on this list -- Jed, maybe, or maybe it was

Re: [Vo]: Algae: 'The ultimate in renewable energy'

2008-04-11 Thread Jones Beene
--- Nick Palmer wrote: getting the CO2 from existing coal/oil/gas fired plants would be FAR better... I agree 100%. The situation is not either/or. CO2 should definitely be removed from the exhaust of all existing fossil fired plants, and fed to algae- there is no question about that.