Re: [Vo]:Re: Major electrolysis development

2008-07-31 Thread Mark S Bilk
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 08:49:53PM +0100, Nick Palmer wrote: > "The hard part of getting water to split is not the hydrogen -- platinum > as a catalyst works fine for the hydrogen. But platinum works very poorly > for oxygen, making you use much more energy," said MIT chemistry > professor Danie

Re: [Vo]:Re: Major electrolysis development

2008-07-31 Thread thomas malloy
Horace Heffner wrote: http://tinyurl.com/6d2x23 h Thanks for an interesting link Horace. --- Get FREE High Speed Internet from USFamily.Net! -- http://www.usfamily.net/mkt-freepromo.html ---

Re: [Vo]:Re: Major electrolysis development

2008-07-31 Thread R C Macaulay
Jones, you sharp eyed cuss, Richard Jones wrote, and we can already do everything stated at decent efficiency with added current, and they cannot promise very more efficiency not lower cost, so where is the beef, really? - but less we forget ... the scientists involved in this say they expect

Re: [Vo]:Re: Major electrolysis development

2008-07-31 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Nick Palmer's message of Thu, 31 Jul 2008 20:58:44 +0100: Hi, [snip] >Meanwhile, the protons in solution are carried by >phosphate anions to a conventional platinum cathode where they gain >electrons to form hydrogen. [snip] If only the cathode is platinum, then I see no reason why i

Re: [Vo]:Re: Major electrolysis development

2008-07-31 Thread Jones Beene
Hello. Is this NSF guy (or the writer of the article) a total nut case, or did I get out of bed on the wrong side: "The simplicity of this process is amazing," Luis Echegoyen, director of the National Science Foundation's chemistry division, said in a statement. "Using common and affordable elemen

Re: [Vo]:Re: Major electrolysis development

2008-07-31 Thread Nick Palmer
This from the Royal Society of Chemistry website gives the most detailed info I've seen so far http://www.rsc.org/chemistryworld/News/2008/July/31070802.asp Breakthrough catalyst for splitting water 31 July 2008 US scientists say they have solved a fundamental problem hampering renewable en

Re: [Vo]:Re: Major electrolysis development

2008-07-31 Thread Nick Palmer
"The hard part of getting water to split is not the hydrogen -- platinum as a catalyst works fine for the hydrogen. But platinum works very poorly for oxygen, making you use much more energy," said MIT chemistry professor Daniel Nocera. "What we have done is made a catalyst work for the oxygen

[Vo]:Doubly disruptive?

2008-07-31 Thread Jones Beene
New article on EEStor ... still not out yet, but the hype continues. http://earth2tech.com/2008/07/30/eestor-the-story-so-far/ It does bring up one point, however. Being ever the optimist, what if the Negre air-motor and the EEStor get to market at the same time (SOON hopefully)- is there any po

[Vo]:Re: Major electrolysis development

2008-07-31 Thread Horace Heffner
http://news.google.com/?ned=us&ncl=1232029265 Best regards, Horace Heffner http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/

[Vo]:Re: Major electrolysis development

2008-07-31 Thread Horace Heffner
http://tinyurl.com/6d2x23 http://www.bostonherald.com/business/general/view.bg?articleid=1110286 Best regards, Horace Heffner http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/

[Vo]:Major electrolysis development

2008-07-31 Thread Horace Heffner
http://tinyurl.com/5hw4jd http://www.reuters.com/article/environmentNews/idUSN3145191020080731 Best regards, Horace Heffner http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/

[Vo]:L.E.D.s

2008-07-31 Thread Harry Veeder
Fans of L.E.D.’s Say This Bulb’s Time Has Come http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/28/technology/28led.html? _r=1&pagewanted=all&oref=slogin