[Vo]:air turbine

2008-10-04 Thread thomas malloy
Vortexians; For Leaking Pen, and anyone else who missed it. I sent the following to Hal Puthoff. I assume that you've heard of Viktor Schauberger and his Respine. These people claim to have replicated it http://www.airturbineengine.com/ . I'd sure like to witness it's operation. My nephew la

[Vo]:Subscribe page causes problems

2008-10-04 Thread Benjamin Rozanski
You may not realize it, but while using Firefox 2.x when I tried to subscribe I got about 50 screen pop-ups. I have no idea why. I then copied the subscribe address and did the subscription via Thunderbird. Hopefully, that works.

[Vo]:thixotrophy and the aether

2008-10-04 Thread thomas malloy
Jones posted; /drilling mud is pumped during a drilling process. Honey in a comb does not "flow"as when it's removed. Strange , the hex structure of the comb is often given credit for this anomaly. Interesting observation Jones. The anomaly seems to be related to the interaction of matt

Re: [Vo]:Black Holes from Newtonian Gravity?

2008-10-04 Thread Harry Veeder
yeah, I was using the term 'black hole' loosely. Googling shows the correct term the Newtonian object is 'dark body'. I wonder how a dark body would differ observationally from a black hole. Perhaps much of the observational evidence supporting the existence of black holes might also support the

Re: [Vo]:Freedom of Information and Open Science

2008-10-04 Thread Edmund Storms
On Oct 4, 2008, at 7:20 PM, Steven Krivit wrote: Hi Ed, Thanks for your reply. As for the advantage to the CMNS list to maintain privacy, this is a requirement for open, frank and sometimes critical discussion. For example, I would want to be able to tell a person that his data is wrong wi

Re: [Vo]:Black Holes from Newtonian Gravity?

2008-10-04 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Michel Jullian's message of Sat, 4 Oct 2008 08:12:26 +0200: Hi, [snip] >As I recall, those jets are satisfactorily explained without resorting >to matter creation. The jets' matter comes from the internal edge of >the accretion disk orbiting around the BH and failing to fall into it >(

Re: [Vo]:Freedom of Information and Open Science

2008-10-04 Thread Steven Krivit
Hi Ed, Thanks for your reply. First of all, the CMNS list is not protected from the media. The media can, as I explained previously, learn of anything that is said. If a reporter wants to publish anything, he can do this and we cannot stop him. You, on the other hand are not the media and yo

Re: [Vo]:Freedom of Information and Open Science

2008-10-04 Thread Edmund Storms
On Oct 4, 2008, at 5:47 PM, Steven Krivit wrote: Ed, You would demonstrate your intention to communicate without hostility by refraining from suggesting what you think I do or do not understand. Rather than continue a polemic with me, perhaps you would be so kind as to explain to me yo

[Vo]:Freedom of Information and Open Science

2008-10-04 Thread Steven Krivit
Ed, You would demonstrate your intention to communicate without hostility by refraining from suggesting what you think I do or do not understand. Rather than continue a polemic with me, perhaps you would be so kind as to explain to me your view as to why you think it is beneficial for the CMN

Re: [Vo]:Another Mars "Bug" found

2008-10-04 Thread Horace Heffner
On Oct 4, 2008, at 7:20 AM, Jones Beene wrote: Holy sand worms ! If there is any 'melange' under that footprint, the will be a massive space-rush, maybe even a 'spice-war' between us the Chinese and the Ruskies, to exploit the scat of Mars... and ... dare I say it ... exploit the oil. 8

Re: [Vo]:Fwd: Freedom of Information and Open Science

2008-10-04 Thread R C Macaulay
Oh ! Beautiful, beautiful Texas( Vortex) , where the deer and the antelope play... where 'nary is heard , a discouraging word... Richard I appreciate all of the critical and thoughtful remarks make on this Vortex list. It is a valuable resource. Steve

Re: [Vo]:Thixotropy and the Aether

2008-10-04 Thread Jones Beene
To further this thought: ... most observers with EE training are critical of the Bedini two-battery (battery swapping) technique as proving gainfulness. This criticism is logical if you approach it solely from the perspective of electrical engineering, instead of EE + suprachemisty (redundant

Re: [Vo]:Fwd: Freedom of Information and Open Science

2008-10-04 Thread Steven Krivit
At 07:34 PM 10/2/2008, you wrote: and this is cross posted here becuase? Thanks for asking. The Vortex list is, in my opinion, a group of fairly enlightened and aware group of individuals who have an interest in CMNS and free speech. Here's the background: I do not have a problem with

Re: [Vo]:Thixotropy and the Aether

2008-10-04 Thread Jones Beene
John, ... not sure how you plan to proceed with your experiment (do you have a web page?) but here is an extended comment based on similar situations: As you know, most observers with EE training are critical of the Bedini two-battery (battery swapping) technique as proving gainfulness. This cr

Re: [Vo]:Another Mars "Bug" found

2008-10-04 Thread Jones Beene
Holy sand worms ! If there is any 'melange' under that footprint, the will be a massive space-rush, maybe even a 'spice-war' between us the Chinese and the Ruskies, to exploit the scat of Mars... - Original Message From: Horace Heffner Another Mars “bug” caught in motion in these

Re: [Vo]:Thixotropy and the Aether

2008-10-04 Thread Jones Beene
Richard and John, Curious cross-connection - especially for the timing of your post with this new info below: At the California Science Fair, a motor was specifically altered to show the highly spike BEMF that ostensibly demonstrates overunity: http://www.usc.edu/CSSF/Current/Projects/S0801.pd

Re: [Vo]:The Off Topic Threads

2008-10-04 Thread Edmund Storms
Thanks for the information Don. Obviously people can function very well with ADD under most circumstances. In fact, we all have a little of this problem. The question is, does a president with this problem function well? Bush answered this question very clearly with a NO answer. As a res

Re: [Vo]:Thixotropy and the Aether

2008-10-04 Thread R C Macaulay
Baldor Motor. They also recently purchased Reliance so they can offer submersible motors as well. Franklin Electric makes a split phase submersible and a range of fractional motors. Wear rubber boots Richard John Berry wrote, What kinds of motors? I am actually planning to do an experimen

[Vo]:Another Mars "Bug" found

2008-10-04 Thread Horace Heffner
Another Mars “bug” caught in motion in these NASA Phoenix Sol 123 photos: http://phoenix.lpl.arizona.edu/images.php?gID=36456&cID=321 http://phoenix.lpl.arizona.edu/images.php?gID=36497&cID=321 http://phoenix.lpl.arizona.edu/images.php?gID=36498&cID=321 These are animated in a video at: http: