Re: [Vo]:Nissan electric car

2009-08-12 Thread Harry Veeder
I mean quick charging stations. Harry - Original Message - From: mix...@bigpond.com Date: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 5:55 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Nissan electric car > In reply to Harry Veeder's message of Wed, 12 Aug 2009 11:34:07 - > 0400:Hi, > [snip] > > > >I think network of charging st

Re: [Vo]:Marinov BB motor test problems

2009-08-12 Thread Horace Heffner
On Aug 4, 2009, at 8:49 AM, Harry Veeder wrote: - Original Message - From: Horace Heffner Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2009 1:41 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:Marinov BB motor test problems [snip] The nichrome coil is a resistor being fed a large current. P = i^2 * R. Why does a hot plate heat

Re: [Vo]:Nissan electric car

2009-08-12 Thread mixent
In reply to Harry Veeder's message of Wed, 12 Aug 2009 11:34:07 -0400: Hi, [snip] > >I think network of charging stations should be built by the state. [snip] There is already a nationwide network of charging stations, with grid connections. I think their called "houses". ;) Regards, Robin van S

Re: [Vo]:Toyota announces hybrid compact car

2009-08-12 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
But how long will it take for these expensive high tech batteries to come down to a more reasonable 2k - 3k price tag? I gather most of these batteries do not incorporate expensive elements or other resources, so it would seem to be primarily an issue acquiring economical technology combined with e

Re: [Vo]:Toyota announces hybrid compact car

2009-08-12 Thread Jed Rothwell
Steven V Johnson wrote: I gather the Yaris' 15k estimated price tag is its strongest feature, particularly when compared to the GM Volt 40k estimated price. You mean the upcoming Yaris-based hybrid, which doesn't seem to have a name. A conventional Yaris starts at $12,205 in the U.S. Not sure

Re: [Vo]:Toyota announces hybrid compact car

2009-08-12 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Jed: > Terry Blanton wrote: > >> I wonder if this is the rumored serial-hybrid from Toyota? > > There are no technical details in the Japanese newspapers. Just short > announcements. I do not even see a model name mentioned, such as "Prius" or > "Yaris" (or "Sonata," "Apostrophe" or "Ellipsi

Re: [Vo]:Toyota announces hybrid compact car

2009-08-12 Thread Jed Rothwell
Terry Blanton wrote: I wonder if this is the rumored serial-hybrid from Toyota? There are no technical details in the Japanese newspapers. Just short announcements. I do not even see a model name mentioned, such as "Prius" or "Yaris" (or "Sonata," "Apostrophe" or "Ellipsis" -- they do give

Re: [Vo]:Nissan electric car

2009-08-12 Thread Harry Veeder
automatic buying too? harry - Original Message - From: Michel Jullian Date: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 11:36 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:Nissan electric car > You missed the word "automatically" in my proposal, the owners of the > selling cars wouldn't have to do a thing, the car's computer

Re: [Vo]:Toyota announces hybrid compact car

2009-08-12 Thread Terry Blanton
I wonder if this is the rumored serial-hybrid from Toyota? Terry On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 3:20 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > See: > > http://www.reuters.com/article/GCA-GreenBusiness/idUSTRE56R08Y20090728 > > Toyota announced they will begin sales of a compact hybrid car in 2011. It > is based on the

Re: [Vo]:Toyota announces hybrid compact car

2009-08-12 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 3:20 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > See: > > http://www.reuters.com/article/GCA-GreenBusiness/idUSTRE56R08Y20090728 > > Toyota announced they will begin sales of a compact hybrid car in 2011. It > is based on the model they call the "Yaris" in the U.S. It will cost about > $15,00

[Vo]:Toyota announces hybrid compact car

2009-08-12 Thread Jed Rothwell
See: http://www.reuters.com/article/GCA-GreenBusiness/idUSTRE56R08Y20090728 Toyota announced they will begin sales of a compact hybrid car in 2011. It is based on the model they call the "Yaris" in the U.S. It will cost about $15,000 in Japan, which is cheap, for there. The Japanese article

[Vo]:Charged pair creation

2009-08-12 Thread Horace Heffner
The purpose here is, assuming the feasibility of the existence of right handed mirror matter existing in right handed space, and the existence of gravitational charge, to examine the valid combinations of charged pair creation from the vacuum. For purposes of this analysis charged particles

Re: [Vo]:Nissan electric car

2009-08-12 Thread Terry Blanton
EEStor has recently filed patents for grid leveling applications. If the EESU works, it will make wind and solar viable replacement alternatives to fossil fuels. Terry On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 10:18 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > A charging station itself would need a bank of supercapacitors to smoot

RE: [Vo]:Nissan electric car

2009-08-12 Thread Jones Beene
There is a semantics problem here - or maybe it is an "assumption" problem - with the idea that "Electricity is cheaper than gasoline per vehicle mile". First we know that the price of both is artificial. The cost to find, pump, refine and blend gasoline (historically) is still only pennies per gal

Re: [Vo]:Nissan electric car

2009-08-12 Thread Michel Jullian
You missed the word "automatically" in my proposal, the owners of the selling cars wouldn't have to do a thing, the car's computer would do all the advertising and selling work. Michel 2009/8/12 OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson : > Jed sez: > > ... > >> If we start to run out of oil and the cost o

Re: [Vo]:Nissan electric car

2009-08-12 Thread Harry Veeder
I think network of charging stations should be built by the state. The state already pays much more to build bridges and highway, so what's the big deal? Harry - Original Message - From: Jed Rothwell Date: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 10:18 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:Nissan electric car > Mich

Re: [Vo]:Nissan electric car

2009-08-12 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Jed sez: ... > If we start to run out of oil and the cost of oil skyrockets, the cost of > electricity will go up, but not as much. You will still be talking about > ~$20 per day income, adjusted for inflation. Little or no electricity is > generated with oil, although it does take oil to mine co

Re: [Vo]:Nissan electric car

2009-08-12 Thread Jed Rothwell
Steven V Johnson wrote: OTOH, I could see the possibility of a group of enterprising people customizing their cars & vans with large battery banks to be used as energy storage. They could then cruise the freeways in wait of customers in need of a quick point, click, sale - charge. Electricit

Re: [Vo]:Nissan electric car

2009-08-12 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Michel > There might be a way for purely electric vehicles to deal with long > trips, without the need for a network of charging stations, nor even a > network of gas stations: an Internet based peer to peer (EV to EV) kWh > trading scheme, where home- or office- charged cars with energy to

Re: [Vo]:Nissan electric car

2009-08-12 Thread Jed Rothwell
Michel Jullian wrote: There might be a way for purely electric vehicles to deal with long trips, without the need for a network of charging stations, nor even a network of gas stations: an Internet based peer to peer (EV to EV) kWh trading scheme, where home- or office- charged cars with energy

Re: [Vo]:Nissan electric car

2009-08-12 Thread Michel Jullian
There might be a way for purely electric vehicles to deal with long trips, without the need for a network of charging stations, nor even a network of gas stations: an Internet based peer to peer (EV to EV) kWh trading scheme, where home- or office- charged cars with energy to spare would automatica

[Vo]:Charged pair creation

2009-08-12 Thread Horace Heffner
The purpose here is, assuming the feasibility of the existence of right handed mirror matter existing in right handed space, and the existence of gravitational charge, to examine the valid combinations of charged pair creation from the vacuum. For purposes of this analysis charged particles