[Vo]:Toyota's continuing troubles featured in Japanese news

2010-02-03 Thread Jed Rothwell
This is sorta off topic . . . As you would expect Toyota's technical troubles have been featured in the Japanese print and broadcast news for the past several days. This morning's headlines in the Asahi and Yomiuri are about the Prius, which has not been suspected of having problems up until

Re: [Vo]:Toyota's continuing troubles featured in Japanese news

2010-02-03 Thread Terry Blanton
This article: http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/engineering/article7007464.ece says 19 deaths. This article: http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20100202n1.html says there is no physical linkage between the throttle and the accelerator petal in the

Re: [Vo]:Toyota's continuing troubles featured in Japanese news

2010-02-03 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
From Terry: ... Turn the ignition off and shift to neutral if you encounter the problem.  If you have a push button starter, hold the button down for over 3 seconds for a forced shutdown. Sounds like the same kind of instructions you might give someone who needs to perform an emergency power

Re: [Vo]:Toyota's continuing troubles featured in Japanese news

2010-02-03 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
On 02/03/2010 11:22 AM, debivort wrote: Steve Woczniak (sp?), cofounder of Apple, was recently featured in news reports. He has a Prius that accelerated unexpectedly, and said that he suspects software problems, rather than hardware. Of course he does. He's a hardware guy, they always

Re: [Vo]:Toyota's continuing troubles featured in Japanese news

2010-02-03 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
On 02/03/2010 10:00 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Here is a detailed report on Toyota's troubles, which is pretty damning: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/01/business/01toyota.html Toyota's Slow Awakening to a Deadly Problem, January 31, 2010 I found this bit very suprising; I'd gotten the

[Vo]:How I made money from Cold Fusion

2010-02-03 Thread Jed Rothwell
Interesting! See: http://www.americasdebate.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=19469 How I Made Money from Cold Fusion QUOTES: Exclusive Article for Free Republic | 1/23/10 | Kevmo http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2435697/posts Posted on Saturday, January 23, 2010 12:28:49 PM by Kevmo

Re: [Vo]:Toyota's continuing troubles featured in Japanese news

2010-02-03 Thread Terry Blanton
Headline CNN.com Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood told lawmakers today that Toyota owners should stop driving cars affected by the recall and take them to dealers. I guess they should have them towed to the dealer? T

Re: [Vo]:How I made money from Cold Fusion

2010-02-03 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
From Jed: Interesting! See: http://www.americasdebate.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=19469 How I Made Money from Cold Fusion QUOTES: Exclusive Article for Free Republic | 1/23/10 | Kevmo http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2435697/posts Posted on Saturday, January 23, 2010 12:28:49

Re: [Vo]:Toyota's continuing troubles featured in Japanese news

2010-02-03 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
On 02/03/2010 01:23 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: Headline CNN.com Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood told lawmakers today that Toyota owners should stop driving cars affected by the recall and take them to dealers. I guess they should have them towed to the dealer? Defective fly-by-wire

Re: [Vo]:Toyota's continuing troubles featured in Japanese news

2010-02-03 Thread Terry Blanton
Okay, go figure this, according to the list on CNN.com models whose VIN start with 'J' are not affected by the recall. Now, why are they different? Could it be that Japanese cars are RH drive and are adapted for shipment to the US? T

Re: [Vo]:Toyota's continuing troubles featured in Japanese news

2010-02-03 Thread Terry Blanton
CBS: Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood now says he misspoke when telling owners of recalled Toyotas to stop driving then. Instead, LaHood says take them to dealerships to get them repaired. LaHood told reporters it was obviously a misstatement when he told a House panel earlier Wednesday that

Re: [Vo]:Toyota's continuing troubles featured in Japanese news

2010-02-03 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
On 02/03/2010 02:07 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: Okay, go figure this, according to the list on CNN.com models whose VIN start with 'J' are not affected by the recall. Now, why are they different? Could it be that Japanese cars are RH drive and are adapted for shipment to the US? I've seen

Re: [Vo]:Toyota's continuing troubles featured in Japanese news

2010-02-03 Thread Jed Rothwell
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Defective fly-by-wire is very scary. Can you even turn the engine off if the computer isn't listening? It is very scary, but as far as I know, they haven't made a computer yet that does not respond to a hardware interrupt. You can always reset a computer. On the

Re: [Vo]:Toyota's continuing troubles featured in Japanese news

2010-02-03 Thread Terry Blanton
Open the pod bay door HAL. -Dave

Re: [Vo]:Toyota's continuing troubles featured in Japanese news

2010-02-03 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
On 02/03/2010 03:26 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Defective fly-by-wire is very scary. Can you even turn the engine off if the computer isn't listening? It is very scary, but as far as I know, they haven't made a computer yet that does not respond to a hardware

Re: [Vo]:Toyota's continuing troubles featured in Japanese news

2010-02-03 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
On 02/03/2010 03:26 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Defective fly-by-wire is very scary. Can you even turn the engine off if the computer isn't listening? It is very scary, but as far as I know, they haven't made a computer yet that does not respond to a hardware

Re: [Vo]:Toyota's continuing troubles featured in Japanese news

2010-02-03 Thread Jed Rothwell
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: computer. On the Prius they say to hold down the Start button for 3 seconds to generate a master reset. Seriously, your life is flashing before your eyes, all you want to do is STOP the car, and you're supposed to remember that you need to press the START button??

Re: [Vo]:Toyota's continuing troubles featured in Japanese news

2010-02-03 Thread Jed Rothwell
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: But sometimes. ... that didn't work either, nothing at all worked, and you had to use the big orange toggle switch on the side of the box. Let me amend my previous statement: You can always reset a computer -- IF the designer included a hardware

RE: [Vo]:Toyota's continuing troubles featured in Japanese news

2010-02-03 Thread debivort
LOL! Good one. -Original Message- From: Stephen A. Lawrence [mailto:sa...@pobox.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 11:50 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Toyota's continuing troubles featured in Japanese news On 02/03/2010 11:22 AM, debivort wrote: Steve Woczniak

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2010-02-03 Thread Harvey Norris
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