Re: [Vo]:HP474AC probe measures Relative Humidity, not steam quality

Good grief Jed! You have to keep straight the difference between mass and volume! Your reference clearly states "If the water content of the steam is 5% by mass, then the steam is said to be 95% dry and has a dryness fraction of 0.95." By my table, 95% steam has way less than 0.1% water b

Re: [Vo]:HP474AC probe measures Relative Humidity, not steam quality

On 01/23/2011 10:32 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: >> Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: >> >> No, I don't think so. The stuff pumped out of the supply tank, and into >> the reactor, is 100% water; air comes into the supply tank at the top >> and displaces the water in the tank as it's pumped out. >>

Re: [Vo]:Force from bouncing ball higher than resting ball?

On 01/23/2011 10:04 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: > The truck would be lighter while it crosses the bridge if the chickens > could jump so high that they remain in the air until the truck is over > the bridge. Assuming the chickens have super thighs and aren't boxed > in. ;-) But then the chickens hav

Re: [Vo]:HP474AC probe measures Relative Humidity, not steam quality

- Original Message > From: Stephen A. Lawrence > To: vortex-l@eskimo.com > Sent: Sun, January 23, 2011 9:58:57 PM > Subject: Re: [Vo]:HP474AC probe measures Relative Humidity, not steam quality > > > > On 01/23/2011 09:49 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: > > Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: > >

Re: [Vo]:Force from bouncing ball higher than resting ball?

> >From: Man on Bridges >To: vortex-l@eskimo.com >Sent: Sun, January 23, 2011 10:12:20 PM >Subject: Re: [Vo]:Force from bouncing ball higher than resting ball? > >On 24-1-2011 4:04, Harry Veeder wrote: >The truck would be lighter while it crosses the bridge if the >chickens > >coul

[Vo]:preliminary radiation and heat findings on two recent tests Dec 16 and Jan 14 on the same HNi fusion Rossi reactor by U. Bologna scientists, D Bianchini, G Levi: Rich Murray 2011.01.23

preliminary radiation and heat findings on two recent tests Dec 16 and Jan 14 on the same HNi fusion Rossi reactor by U. Bologna scientists, D Bianchini, G Levi: Rich Murray 2011.01.23 http://22passi.blogspot.com/2011/01/report-ufficiale-esperimento-della.html [ Rich Murray: minor typos and confu

Re: [Vo]:Force from bouncing ball higher than resting ball?

On 24-1-2011 4:04, Harry Veeder wrote: The truck would be lighter while it crosses the bridge if the chickens could jump so high that they remain in the air until the truck is over the bridge. Assuming the chickens have super thighs and aren't boxed in. ;-) Harry This was actually tested by

Re: [Vo]:Force from bouncing ball higher than resting ball?

The truck would be lighter while it crosses the bridge if the chickens could jump so high that they remain in the air until the truck is over the bridge. Assuming the chickens have super thighs and aren't boxed in. ;-) Harry > > > > > >On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 3:36 AM, John Berry wrote: > >Of

Re: [Vo]:HP474AC probe measures Relative Humidity, not steam quality

On 01/23/2011 09:49 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: > Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: > > >> If it's pure steam (no entrained air) at 100 C, then the RH must be >> 100%, a priori, since the vapor pressure of water at 100 C is 1 >> atmosphere. >> > I think it is mixed with air, otherwise the water

Re: [Vo]:Test of boiling water in a frying pan

wrote: > ...but you are not actually producing wet steam. You are producing dry > steam > that then condenses to some extent upon contact with the cool air. Also with the sides of the pot. I figured that out after I wrote it. With the flow calorimetry I think it does entrain some unboiled wat

Re: [Vo]:HP474AC probe measures Relative Humidity, not steam quality

Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: > > If it's pure steam (no entrained air) at 100 C, then the RH must be > 100%, a priori, since the vapor pressure of water at 100 C is 1 > atmosphere. I think it is mixed with air, otherwise the water pump would have to work harder and harder as a vacuum is c

Re: [Vo]:Force from bouncing ball higher than resting ball?

Thanks all. Easy when getting it explained. Net linear momentum is the same so this means impulse have to be the same too. Actually I was thinking about gas molecules in a container. If heating would increase weight. The ball example shows it can't increase pressure on the bottom. David David Jo

Re: [Vo]:Fusing Fear and Science - Lets Stick to Nickel and Hydrogen

The unfamiliar should be feared at least a little bit. Harry > >From: noone noone >To: vortex-l@eskimo.com >Sent: Sat, January 22, 2011 9:58:49 PM >Subject: [Vo]:Fusing Fear and Science - Lets Stick to Nickel and Hydrogen > >My hope is that lots of people will stand up and say NO to the fear fac

Re: [Vo]: The tides have changed... The genie is out of the bottle.

I hope for the better. Harry > >From: noone noone >To: vortex-l@eskimo.com >Sent: Sun, January 23, 2011 10:34:48 AM >Subject: Re: [Vo]: The tides have changed... The genie is out of the bottle. > > >I think that Cold Fusion technology will totally change the world. > >I think that NOTHING will

[Vo]:Ny Teknik articles creating a buzz

The articles about Rossi in the Swedish Ny Teknik on-line journal have generated a lot of interest. The editor contacted me and said they have been downloaded 60,000 times. I am jealous! We have never had a paper at LENR-CANR downloaded that many times in a few days. The editor had a few questions

[Vo]:JANUARY 15th EVENT - Prof. Levi and Dr. Bianchini Reports

http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/files/Levi%20and%20Bianchini%20Reports.pdf

Re: [Vo]: The tides have changed... The genie is out of the bottle.

Terry sez: > Personally, I hope that 2012 will usher in a new sun.  Not a supernova > of Betelgeuse; but, a slow, cold fusion which will render the > petrodollar obsolete.  May the end of the Mayan calender on the winter > solstice be the day that megawatt H-Ni steam engine goes online. In which

Re: [Vo]: The tides have changed... The genie is out of the bottle.

Personally, I hope that 2012 will usher in a new sun. Not a supernova of Betelgeuse; but, a slow, cold fusion which will render the petrodollar obsolete. May the end of the Mayan calender on the winter solstice be the day that megawatt H-Ni steam engine goes online. T

Re: [Vo]: The tides have changed... The genie is out of the bottle.

>From Mark Iverson: > Good or bad, the genie is out of the bottle and there's > no way anyone can stuff it back in... I sincerely hope, > pray, that the human species has matured enough to accept > the responsibility that comes with this kind of discovery. I agree, Mark. Potential change of th

Re: [Vo]:Test of boiling water in a frying pan

In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Sun, 23 Jan 2011 15:29:03 -0500: Hi, [snip] ...but you are not actually producing wet steam. You are producing dry steam that then condenses to some extent upon contact with the cool air. "Real" wet steam might be produced in a situation where the flow of stea

Re: [Vo]:Test of boiling water in a frying pan

And his wife said Jed can't cook. T

Re: [Vo]:Test of boiling water in a frying pan

Thank you, Jed. That was a worthwhile experiment.

Re: [Vo]:Test of boiling water in a frying pan

Below is a follow up posting at the web site. As far as I can tell, this would apply to Heffner's calculation as well. Assuming the frying pan makes 1% wet steam, it should have taken about 4 minutes for all of the water to leave the pan, by his calculation. I do not think my frying pan is inheren

Re: [Vo]: Volume of reactor is 1 liter

Mark Iverson wrote: From Rossi's website comments, we now know the volume of the reactor... 1 > liter. > Much smaller than Jed's earlier estimate. > Well, I was assuming it was a hollow dummy device. Evidently the walls are thick and there is actual equipment in there, not just canisters of oxy

[Vo]:Test of boiling water in a frying pan

In the discussion her: http://pesn.com/2011/01/21/9501749_Fighting_the_Infection_of_Cynical_Skepticism_with_Cold_Fusion/ Someone named Guest insists that it is possible to boil 8.8 kg of water in 30 min with 700 W input. He give a set of reasons similar to the ones cited here by Horace Heffner; i

[Vo]: Volume of reactor is 1 liter

>From Rossi's website comments, we now know the volume of the reactor... 1 >liter. Much smaller than Jed's earlier estimate. Andrea Rossi January 23rd, 2011 at 10:49 AM Dear Mr Giorgio Roncolato: The volume of the reactor is 1 liter. If you read carefully the report you find all yuo are aski

Re: [Vo]: The tides have changed... The genie is out of the bottle.

On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 7:59 AM, peatbog wrote: > http://wattsupwiththat.com, a widely-read website, has a > non-sneering article about the Rossi claims. http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/01/22/cold-fusion-going-commercial/#more-32272 This article has a photo from an angle which would show the ste

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Report on heat production during preliminary tests on the Rossi “Ni-H” reactor. Dr. Giuseppe Levi

Thanks for the compliment - I am an expert websearcher, see "Informavore's Sunday No 439" at my blog Ego Out http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com, I have won more contests- e.g. "who wants to be a millionaire" with time control (you get points not money) Always happy and ready to help, if you have such

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Report on heat production during preliminary tests on the Rossi “Ni-H” reactor. Dr. Giuseppe Levi

On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Peter Gluck wrote: > it's here in Italian > http://www.unibo.it/SitoWebDocente/default.htm?upn=giuseppe.levi%40unibo.it&TabControl1=TabCV Many thanks, Peter. You are a gentleman and a scholar! Dr. Levi certainly looks qualified to participate in this demonstrat

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Report on heat production during preliminary tests on the Rossi “Ni-H” reactor. Dr. Giuseppe Levi

it's here in Italian http://www.unibo.it/SitoWebDocente/default.htm?upn=giuseppe.levi%40unibo.it&TabControl1=TabCV Peter On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 6:43 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > Does anyone have Dr.

RE: [Vo]: Primary Examiner for USPTO asking Rossi questions!!!

Aha. Shades of the Rusi affair ... The 'fix' is still on. How long before NET picks up on this? -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton Jones Beene wrote: > Look under 'litigation' - the plaintiff is a name known to many of us, but the nature of the lawsuit is not clear. http://www.oo

RE: [Vo]:Efimov - was: Chain Reaction and/or Self Sustain Mode

-Original Message- From: Terry Blanton > It would seem to me that there might be an upper limit in the mass of a halo nucleus. Could be, but why? Is that because no one has looked for it, or not? There is too little data on this subject to be sure. As we have discussed here before, ther

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Report on heat production during preliminary tests on the Rossi “Ni-H” reactor. Dr. Giuseppe Levi

Does anyone have Dr. Levi's CV? You can't just google his name. Well, you can; but, there's many of him. :) T

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Report on heat production during preliminary tests on the Rossi “Ni-H” reactor. Dr. Giuseppe Levi

I am a bit puzzled by this statement: "During the test the main resistor, used to ignite the reaction, two failed to defective welding. Even That condition in the reactor started operation successfully using the other resistors But The duration of the experiment in full power ( ≈ 40 min) Was "to s

Re: [Vo]: Primary Examiner for USPTO asking Rossi questions!!!

On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 8:16 AM, Jones Beene wrote: > Did you go to his site? Even more curious. Bizarre is more like it. > > > > Look under ‘litigation’ – the plaintiff is a name known to many of us, but > the nature of the lawsuit is not clear. http://www.oocities.com/qedpressrelease/24August06

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Report on heat production during preliminary tests on the Rossi “Ni-H” reactor. Dr. Giuseppe Levi

Notice that Levi was careful to mount the machine and control box so that you can see underneath it: "Prudentially I have lifted the control box in search for any other eventually hidden cable and found none." He has a sufficiently suspicious mind. That's good. - Jed

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Report on heat production during preliminary tests on the Rossi “Ni-H” reactor. Dr. Giuseppe Levi

This is helpful! Although I hope they do post more data. You can see these are old professors since they post screen images of the computer data instead of the output from the instruments converted directly into a graph. This report says the probe used with the RH meter is an HP474AC. See: http:/

Re: [Vo]: The tides have changed... The genie is out of the bottle.

On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 10:34 AM, noone noone wrote: > I think that NOTHING will be considered "impossible" again. I have always believed anything was possible given adequate time and funding. CF reduces the funding cost. T

Re: [Vo]:Efimov - was: Chain Reaction and/or Self Sustain Mode

It would seem to me that there might be an upper limit in the mass of a halo nucleus. And, wouldn't it be the Nickel Age or the Hydrogen Age since Cu is the ash? T

Re: [Vo]: The tides have changed... The genie is out of the bottle.

I think that Cold Fusion technology will totally change the world. I think that NOTHING will be considered "impossible" again. From: Mark Iverson To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, January 23, 2011 1:16:22 AM Subject: [Vo]: The tides have changed... The genie

Re: [Vo]:HP474AC probe measures Relative Humidity, not steam quality

Horace Heffner wrote: > We can thus see from this table that if 1 percent by volume of the steam is > entrained water micro-droplets, easily not seen in tubing or exhaust ports, > that only 5.6 percent of the heat of vaporization is required to produce > that mixture. > I do not think so. See:

[Vo]:Efimov - was: Chain Reaction and/or Self Sustain Mode

The Efimov State, or Effect, goes back to1970 and has recently been in the News. The Efimov effect refers to a scenario in which three bosons interact as a unit - as a Borromean ring, and for that reason it may have strong relevance to LENR if it also turns out that there exists a Quasi-BEC aspect

[Vo]:Report on heat production during preliminary tests on the Rossi “Ni-H” reactor. Dr. Giuseppe Levi

I think there will be even more data posted Monday http://22passi.blogspot.com/2011/01/report-ufficiale-esperimento-della.html

Re: [Vo]:HP474AC probe measures Relative Humidity, not steam quality

On 01/23/2011 01:12 AM, Horace Heffner wrote: > > This whole issue /[of steam quality measurements]/ may be of academic > interest only... Only if another demonstration is done with no input (closed loop). Otherwise it's still extremely interesting because, if this measurement was botched as ba

RE: [Vo]: Primary Examiner for USPTO asking Rossi questions!!!

Did you go to his site? Even more curious. Bizarre is more like it. Look under 'litigation' - the plaintiff is a name known to many of us, but the nature of the lawsuit is not clear. From: Mark Iverson [mailto:zeropo...@charter.net] Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 8:50 PM To: vortex

Re: [Vo]: The tides have changed... The genie is out of the bottle.

http://wattsupwiththat.com, a widely-read website, has a non-sneering article about the Rossi claims.

Re: [Vo]: Primary Examiner for USPTO asking Rossi questions!!!

In reply to Robin's email of Sat, 22 Jan 2011 21:40:04 -0800 Hi Robin, Regarding the interest of examiner Snow. [snip] ...or perhaps he's just curious? (like us) ;) [/snip] I hope this means some consideration is being given to the circumstances under which the Mill's patent was rec

Re: [Vo]: The tides have changed... The genie is out of the bottle.

On Jan 22, 2011, at 9:16 PM, Mark Iverson wrote: I highly doubt that anyone can come close to predicting what will happen from here... Clean, cheap energy will touch EVERY ASPECT OF LIVING, COMMERCE and INTERACTION BETWEEN COUNTRIES. The complexity of those interactions makes it difficult