Re: [Vo]:The 7 Stages of Robot Replacement

2011-09-30 Thread Harry Veeder
  A job can be objectional for reasons other than danger, tedium or toil. Robots will do jobs that people refuse to do as matter of religion or personal belief.   Of course, some jobs should not be performed by either a robot or a person for ethical reasons.   Harry From: OrionWorks - Steven V J

[Vo]:Steorn: New Validation Tests?

2011-09-30 Thread Harry Veeder
I didn't follow the recent discussion of Steorn on vortext. Was this Sept. 14 2011 report from PESN the trigger? Harry   Steorn Drops Four Bombshell Documents Validating Orbo The Dublin based, Irish free energy company Steorn, has allowed PESN to view and report on four documents written by thir

Re: [Vo]:Ecat.com is about steaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaammmmmmmmmmmmmmm

2011-09-30 Thread Terry Blanton
Looks like a Sabre Toothed GigaWatt ePussy! "I got steam heat . . . "

Re: [Vo]:Ecat.com is about steaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaammmmmmmmmmmmmmm

2011-09-30 Thread Daniel Rocha
It says in the end: stay tuned for October 6th. HAHA. I knew it :D

[Vo]:Ecat.com is about steaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaammmmmmmmmmmmmmm

2011-09-30 Thread Daniel Rocha
;D http://ecat.com/

Re: [Vo]:H-Ni reactions was tested by NASA - why didnt they continue this early research, if it worked?

2011-09-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
Peter Heckert wrote: > Yes, but this is not what is needed. > The Rossi device is inaccessible. An accessible and working device is > needed to do LENR research. > Defkalion says they will begin selling commercial quantities of these devices next year. This will make them available to do LENR r

Re: [Vo]:Re: Nobel Laureate Brian Josephson to test an e-Cat module on October 6th (NOT)

2011-09-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: > I do not think there is the slightest chance he has illustrated fake device > to Krivit or to anyone else. > Meant: DEMONSTRATED a fake device. This new version of NaturallySpeaking needs some tweaking. It also keeps forgetting to capitalize the first word in sentences. Rossi is s

Re: [Vo]:Re: Nobel Laureate Brian Josephson to test an e-Cat module on October 6th (NOT)

2011-09-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
As far as I know, the description in PESN is accurate. This is shaping up to be an important test. It may not be definitive, but it will probably be better than the previous tests done by Rossi and Levi. Josephson wrote: "It has only cosmetic value if distinguished non-experts are observers." I to

Re: [Vo]:H-Ni reactions was tested by NASA - why didnt they continue this early research, if it worked?

2011-09-30 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 30.09.2011 23:30, schrieb Jed Rothwell: Peter Heckert mailto:peter.heck...@arcor.de>> wrote: If this works repeatable and the energy can be reliable proven, then they dont need Rossi and his poprietary secret methods and devices. Assuming the claims made by Rossi and Defkalion

Re: [Vo]:H-Ni reactions was tested by NASA - why didnt they continue this early research, if it worked?

2011-09-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
Peter Heckert wrote: > If this works repeatable and the energy can be reliable proven, then they > dont need Rossi and his poprietary secret methods and devices. > Assuming the claims made by Rossi and Defkalion are true, they are far better of any previous version of nickel cold fusion (or the

[Vo]:H-Ni reactions was tested by NASA - why didnt they continue this early research, if it worked?

2011-09-30 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 30.09.2011 21:11, schrieb Jed Rothwell: Peter Heckert mailto:peter.heck...@arcor.de>> wrote: I found this document, where NASA found excess heat in H-Ni electrolysis. Could it be this document

Re: [Vo]:The faster than light neutrino speed should be determined in a non rotating frame

2011-09-30 Thread Horace Heffner
On Sep 30, 2011, at 11:16 AM, David Jonsson wrote: I made a calculation in an inertial system and found that the CERN- OPERA neutrino speed was by some percent due to the rotation of the Earth around its own axis. Do you agree that the calculation should be made in a non rotating system? By

Re: [Vo]:H2 and O2 bubbles <.15 micrometer burn, damaging electrodes in AC electrolysis -- could complicate cold fusion devices: Rich Murray 2011.09.28

2011-09-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: > I am amazed that I do not have this paper. I don't even recall hearing > about it. Ni-CF is a small world. > Ah wait. I do have this in the database. It was reprinted in infinite energy. I think I will upload the NASA copy because it looks impressive. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Re: Nobel Laureate Brian Josephson to test an e-Cat module on October 6th (NOT)

2011-09-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
Alan J Fletcher wrote: There's a full statement & explanation by Brian Josephson at > > http://pesn.com/2011/09/26/**9501920_NobelPrize_Laureate_** > to_Test_Cold_Fusion_E-Cat/ This is very helpful & informative.

Re: [Vo]:Upcoming October 6th test location revealed

2011-09-30 Thread Horace Heffner
On Sep 30, 2011, at 9:47 AM, Peter Heckert wrote: Am 30.09.2011 19:33, schrieb Horace Heffner: On Sep 30, 2011, at 1:23 AM, Akira Shirakawa wrote: Hello group, It definitely looks like that the next test will be performed in Bologna. Have a look at this scan here, from Rossi's EPO patent

Re: [Vo]:Re: Nobel Laureate Brian Josephson to test an e-Cat module on October 6th (NOT)

2011-09-30 Thread Alan J Fletcher
There's a full statement & explanation by Brian Josephson at http://pesn.com/2011/09/26/9501920_NobelPrize_Laureate_to_Test_Cold_Fusion_E-Cat/ Dear Sterling, The article isn't correct actually. What happened was that I received an invitation from Levi giving details of what was planned, inclu

Re: [Vo]:H2 and O2 bubbles <.15 micrometer burn, damaging electrodes in AC electrolysis -- could complicate cold fusion devices: Rich Murray 2011.09.28

2011-09-30 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 30.09.2011 21:11, schrieb Jed Rothwell: Peter Heckert mailto:peter.heck...@arcor.de>> wrote: I found this document, where NASA found excess heat in H-Ni electrolysis. They did, however use pla

[Vo]:The faster than light neutrino speed should be determined in a non rotating frame

2011-09-30 Thread David Jonsson
I made a calculation in an inertial system and found that the CERN-OPERA neutrino speed was by some percent due to the rotation of the Earth around its own axis. Do you agree that the calculation should be made in a non rotating system? By the time CERN sends and OPERA receives the Earth rotation m

Re: [Vo]:H2 and O2 bubbles <.15 micrometer burn, damaging electrodes in AC electrolysis -- could complicate cold fusion devices: Rich Murray 2011.09.28

2011-09-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
Peter Heckert wrote: > I found this document, where NASA found excess heat in H-Ni electrolysis. > 19960016952_1996035672.pdf > > > > They did, however us

Re: [Vo]:Plug-in hybrid Prius announced

2011-09-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
Man on Bridges wrote: Well, recently I had an offer for the 100% electric Peugeot iOn for approx. > 34,000.00 euro but that is without approx. 4,000.00 euro tax reduction > because it is considered an environmental friendly car. > At this stage in the development of the technology, plug in hybri

Re: [Vo]:Upcoming October 6th test location revealed

2011-09-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
Horace Heffner wrote: Interesting! Thanks for posting that. So the 1 MW E-cat will be tested in Bologna Oct. 6 with Teknik, and Focus information agency, using a heat exchanger. http://www.focus-fen.net/ One unit from it. Not the whole shebang. I guess that should be ~15 kW. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Plug-in hybrid Prius announced

2011-09-30 Thread Man on Bridges
Hi, On 30-9-2011 19:47, Jed Rothwell wrote: That's $32,000 in Japan. I do not know why but cars cost more there. It might be cheaper elsewhere. I expect a 20 km range is enough for most people's commuting range in Japan. It might not be enough in the US. The GM volt range is nominally 40 mi

Re: [Vo]:H2 and O2 bubbles <.15 micrometer burn, damaging electrodes in AC electrolysis -- could complicate cold fusion devices: Rich Murray 2011.09.28

2011-09-30 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 30.09.2011 01:54, schrieb Horace Heffner: NiMH batteries have been tested for excess heat both in forward current and reverse current mode, with null results. To my knowledge no testing for transmutation or occasional high energy radiation has been made. Could you tell sources for th

Re: [Vo]:Upcoming October 6th test location revealed

2011-09-30 Thread Terry Blanton
This isn't THE October test, Horace. THAT test will be in the US; and, as AR promises, when we know the city, we will know the customer (Redmond, WA? :-) T

Re: [Vo]:Plug-in hybrid Prius announced

2011-09-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote: > > I assume you meant to say "Prius" whereas Dragon interpreted your > dictation as "previous". > Yup. You gotta watch it. > Somehow a $32k price tag along with a whopping 20 km max range does > not strike me as terribly impressive. Am I missing something

Re: [Vo]:Upcoming October 6th test location revealed

2011-09-30 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 30.09.2011 19:33, schrieb Horace Heffner: On Sep 30, 2011, at 1:23 AM, Akira Shirakawa wrote: Hello group, It definitely looks like that the next test will be performed in Bologna. Have a look at this scan here, from Rossi's EPO patent application page: http://goo.gl/3MhxO This is the

Re: [Vo]:Upcoming October 6th test location revealed

2011-09-30 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2011-09-30 19:33, Horace Heffner wrote: Interesting! Thanks for posting that. So the 1 MW E-cat will be tested in Bologna Oct. 6 with Teknik, and Focus information agency, using a heat exchanger. http://www.focus-fen.net/ Hmm no, it's the Italian science and technology magazine Focus: htt

Re: [Vo]:Plug-in hybrid Prius announced

2011-09-30 Thread Terry Blanton
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: > Its max range on *batteries* *only* is 20 km, which is enough for most > commuters to get to work, where they can plug in again, and then get home on > the charge they got during the day, without using a drop of gas.  So you > would o

Re: [Vo]:Upcoming October 6th test location revealed

2011-09-30 Thread Horace Heffner
On Sep 30, 2011, at 1:23 AM, Akira Shirakawa wrote: Hello group, It definitely looks like that the next test will be performed in Bologna. Have a look at this scan here, from Rossi's EPO patent application page: http://goo.gl/3MhxO This is the usual location we've seen many times in imag

Re: [Vo]:Plug-in hybrid Prius announced

2011-09-30 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
On 11-09-30 10:39 AM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote: > From Jed: Toyota announced a plug-in previous hybrid car will be available nationwide starting January 1, 2012. The base price is around $32,000. Battery range is "greater than" 20 km. I assume you meant to say "Prius" whereas Drag

Re: [Vo]:Regarding Rossi and NASA (+ some Piantelli news)

2011-09-30 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2011-09-30 18:15, Alan J Fletcher wrote: luke (luca) says: September 30, 2011 at 14:12 [...] Given the wording of this comment, if Krivit forgets to post Bushnell's answer, that could be erroneously interpreted as his confirmation that the tests were not positive. User "luke (luka)" sho

Re: [Vo]:Regarding Rossi and NASA (+ some Piantelli news)

2011-09-30 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 05:26 AM 9/30/2011, Daniel Rocha wrote: So, Dennis Bushnell is Krivit's acolyte? Received via e-mail: “Well done, as usual. Look forward to your reporting of the upcoming Rossi tests.” Dennis Bushnell luke (luca) says: September 30, 2011 at 14:12 Dr. Bushnell you are going on the record

Re: [Vo]:Coutdown at ecat.com

2011-09-30 Thread Daniel Rocha
Yeah, I know. But I found it interesting that it would start a few hours before October, the month with lots of surprises for the ecat. 2011/9/30 Michele Comitini > Is that an e-cat related site? > > http://www.who.is/website-information/ecat.com/ > > Seems to be E.CAT. from "Electric Catalog" >

Re: [Vo]:Coutdown at ecat.com

2011-09-30 Thread Terry Blanton
I On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Daniel Rocha wrote: > Thanks. So, it was synchronized with my computer's clock. More likely it is sync'ed to a SNTP server in your country. Here is something about that: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/262680 Time servers are distributed throughout the inte

Re: [Vo]:Coutdown at ecat.com

2011-09-30 Thread Michele Comitini
Is that an e-cat related site? http://www.who.is/website-information/ecat.com/ Seems to be E.CAT. from "Electric Catalog" mic 2011/9/30 Daniel Rocha > Thanks. So, it was synchronized with my computer's clock. > > > 2011/9/30 Terry Blanton > >> It's a countdown clock. Zero hour will be 6:00p

Re: [Vo]:Plug-in hybrid Prius announced

2011-09-30 Thread Terry Blanton
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 10:39 AM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote: > Am I missing something vital > here? Lithium batteries are 'spensive? T

Re: [Vo]:Coutdown at ecat.com

2011-09-30 Thread Daniel Rocha
Thanks. So, it was synchronized with my computer's clock. 2011/9/30 Terry Blanton > It's a countdown clock. Zero hour will be 6:00pm Eastern on 9/30/2011. > > It says "We are currently building a new site which will be ready > soon. In the mean time you can follow join our newsletter to stay >

Re: [Vo]:Coutdown at ecat.com

2011-09-30 Thread Terry Blanton
It's a countdown clock. Zero hour will be 6:00pm Eastern on 9/30/2011. It says "We are currently building a new site which will be ready soon. In the mean time you can follow join our newsletter to stay updated on our progress." T On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Daniel Rocha wrote: > What I

[Vo]:Stirling Energy Systems Files for Chapter 7 Bankruptcy

2011-09-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
In principle, thermal-solar should be cheaper than PV, but rapid progress in PV has outpaced solar-thermal. This may be a case of the second-best technology beating the best because of government subsidies and widespread interest and participation in the development. See: http://www.renewableenerg

Re: [Vo]:Plug-in hybrid Prius announced

2011-09-30 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Jed: > Toyota announced a plug-in previous hybrid car will be available nationwide > starting January 1, 2012. The base price is around $32,000. Battery range is > "greater than" 20 km. I assume you meant to say "Prius" whereas Dragon interpreted your dictation as "previous". Somehow a $32

Re: [Vo]:Coutdown at ecat.com

2011-09-30 Thread Daniel Rocha
What I mean is, what does the countdown show to you, in your timezone? What happens to that website if you put a later date, say, tomorrow, in your computer's clock?

RE: [Vo]:Coutdown at ecat.com

2011-09-30 Thread Jones Beene
From: Daniel Rocha * I noticed that the countdown at http://ecat.com/ points to tonight, October 1st, 12:00am. This is odd given that the only significant market in my timezone is that of my country, Brazil, but that page is in English. What does that show to you? Hmm . Brazil is the c

[Vo]:Plug-in hybrid Prius announced

2011-09-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
Toyota announced a plug-in previous hybrid car will be available nationwide starting January 1, 2012. The base price is around $32,000. Battery range is "greater than" 20 km. In other news from Japan, the Fukushima reactors are now all cooled below 100°C. In English: http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/dy/n

[Vo]:Coutdown at ecat.com

2011-09-30 Thread Daniel Rocha
Dear People, I noticed that the countdown at http://ecat.com/ points to tonight, October 1st, 12:00am. This is odd given that the only significant market in my timezone is that of my country, Brazil, but that page is in English. What does that show to you? In case that is synchronized with the co

[Vo]:The 7 Stages of Robot Replacement

2011-09-30 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
http://www.kk.org/thetechnium/archives/2011/09/the_7_stages_of.php This guy probably has a future! ;-) Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks

Re: [Vo]:Regarding Rossi and NASA (+ some Piantelli news)

2011-09-30 Thread Daniel Rocha
So, Dennis Bushnell is Krivit's acolyte? 2011/9/30 Akira Shirakawa > On 2011-09-28 20:00, Akira Shirakawa wrote: > >> Hello Group, >> >> Have a read at Krivit's latest blog post here: >> > > This has been posted in the comments section. I'm assuming the email is > authentic: > > Received via e-

[Vo]:Upcoming October 6th test location revealed

2011-09-30 Thread Akira Shirakawa
Hello group, It definitely looks like that the next test will be performed in Bologna. Have a look at this scan here, from Rossi's EPO patent application page: http://goo.gl/3MhxO This is the usual location we've seen many times in images and videos over the last months. It's Rossi's lab in

Re: [Vo]:Regarding Rossi and NASA (+ some Piantelli news)

2011-09-30 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2011-09-28 20:00, Akira Shirakawa wrote: Hello Group, Have a read at Krivit's latest blog post here: This has been posted in the comments section. I'm assuming the email is authentic: Received via e-mail: “Well done, as usual. Look forward to your reporting of the upcoming Rossi tests