[Vo]:INFORMAVORE's SUNDAY No. 477

2011-10-15 Thread Peter Gluck
My recurrent gratitude to the administrator of this Forum for the permission to promote this bunch of information here. And my very deep anticipated thanks to all my colleagues who will help me to promote INFORMAVORE's SUNDAY. Let's forget a bit about the ever increasing interestingness - good and

Re: [Vo]:DGT Understands LENR

2011-10-15 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jouni Valkonen wrote: > Rossi talked on his own technology. not about Defkalion's, because he did > not have any intimate knowledge what Defkalion was doing. He was there at the press conference where they said that they had been working closely with him for a year. They said they had the tech

Re: [Vo]:DGT Understands LENR

2011-10-15 Thread Jouni Valkonen
> Jouni Valkonen wrote: >> From Rossi and Stremmenos. > Jed Rothwell wrote: > I do not believe Rossi's statements about this for two reasons, which I > think are compelling: > 1. After he said this the first time, he soon retracted. He said that his > dispute is about business and not technology.

Re: [Vo]:DGT Understands LENR

2011-10-15 Thread Terry Blanton
Rich, you are so naive. Do you honestly think that a technology of this type could come this close to commercialization and not be within the awareness of DARPA? Why do you think that AR, et.al. continuously explain that their rights exclude military applications? LENR has been suppressed until

Re: [Vo]:DGT Understands LENR

2011-10-15 Thread Rich Murray
Anyone agree that immediate disclosure of any nuclear reaction breakthroughs has to be detailed and worldwide, if the possible hazards of weapons applications are to be publicly and thoroughly assessed for the safety and good of all? Even if no explosions may be possible, we also have to consider

Re: [Vo]:DGT Understands LENR

2011-10-15 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jouni Valkonen wrote: > >> And you really believe what Defkalion representatives says? There is > nothing for Dekalion, but it coulisse. There are no personals employed and > they do not have infrastructure and research and they do not posses any > money. > > > > Where did you get this informati

Re: [Vo]:More drama: open letter to Christos Stemmenos from Defkalion GT

2011-10-15 Thread mixent
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Thu, 13 Oct 2011 19:37:46 -0700: Hi Jones, [snip] >-Original Message- >From: OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson > >> BTW, have you been able to discern anything interesting from the BLP CIHT >> patent? I seem to recall in that your last comment on th

Re: [Vo]:DGT Understands LENR

2011-10-15 Thread Daniel Rocha
Being nice is the usual behavior of any company with decent public relations. 2011/10/15 > In reply to Daniel Rocha's message of Sat, 15 Oct 2011 18:30:34 -0300: > Hi, > [snip] > >Who said they need the catalyst? > > I think the fact that they are still being nice to Rossi implies that they > n

Re: [Vo]:Pictures/Videos on Focus.it

2011-10-15 Thread Raymond Zreick
I have also the .MOV version, if you need for please send me an e-mail at zreickATgmailDOTcom with the filename of the clip or the photo (the photos are in very hight res) On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 11:18 PM, Akira Shirakawa wrote: > On 2011-10-14 23:00, Michele Comitini wrote: > >> this video woul

Re: [Vo]:DGT Understands LENR

2011-10-15 Thread mixent
In reply to Daniel Rocha's message of Sat, 15 Oct 2011 18:30:34 -0300: Hi, [snip] >Who said they need the catalyst? I think the fact that they are still being nice to Rossi implies that they need something. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html

Re: [Vo]:DGT Understands LENR

2011-10-15 Thread Daniel Rocha
Who said they need the catalyst? 2011/10/15 > In reply to Daniel Rocha's message of Sat, 15 Oct 2011 18:15:43 -0300: > Hi, > [snip] > >That's what I understand by reading this... "Even though, we intend to > >support papers with results supported by the measurements from *new > >instruments **w

Re: [Vo]:DGT Understands LENR

2011-10-15 Thread mixent
In reply to Daniel Rocha's message of Sat, 15 Oct 2011 18:15:43 -0300: Hi, [snip] >That's what I understand by reading this... "Even though, we intend to >support papers with results supported by the measurements from *new >instruments **we had to develop in order to control* and further develop t

Re: [Vo]:DGT Understands LENR

2011-10-15 Thread mixent
In reply to Daniel Rocha's message of Sat, 15 Oct 2011 18:12:40 -0300: Hi, [snip] >According to Rossi, Nickel transmutes to Copper and it decays to Nickel >again by beta decay, so there is neutrino emission. This assumes that Rossi et al actually do know which reactions are taking place. > >2011

Re: [Vo]:DGT Understands LENR

2011-10-15 Thread Daniel Rocha
That's what I understand by reading this... "Even though, we intend to support papers with results supported by the measurements from *new instruments **we had to develop in order to control* and further develop the technologies embedded in our products" 2011/10/15 > In reply to Daniel Rocha's

Re: [Vo]:DGT Understands LENR

2011-10-15 Thread Daniel Rocha
According to Rossi, Nickel transmutes to Copper and it decays to Nickel again by beta decay, so there is neutrino emission. 2011/10/15 > In reply to Daniel Rocha's message of Sat, 15 Oct 2011 15:37:53 -0300: > Hi, > [snip] > >It is extremely easy to prove within a few seconds that any of these

Re: [Vo]:DGT Understands LENR

2011-10-15 Thread Jouni Valkonen
lauantai, 15. lokakuuta 2011 Jed Rothwell kirjoitti: > Jouni Valkonen wrote: > >> >> And you really believe what Defkalion representatives says? There is nothing for Dekalion, but it coulisse. There are no personals employed and they do not have infrastructure and research and they do not posses

Re: [Vo]:DGT Understands LENR

2011-10-15 Thread mixent
In reply to Daniel Rocha's message of Sat, 15 Oct 2011 13:16:30 -0300: Hi, [snip] >The best part here it is that they indeed confirm that Rossi is lying about >they not having the necessary know-how to make the core WOW! > >2011/10/15 Terry Blanton > >> http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/v

Re: [Vo]:DGT Understands LENR

2011-10-15 Thread mixent
In reply to Daniel Rocha's message of Sat, 15 Oct 2011 15:37:53 -0300: Hi, [snip] >It is extremely easy to prove within a few seconds that any of these devices >work, without any kind of calorimetry, water heat or steam. Take it to the >neutrino detector in Gran Sasso, Italy. The neutrino emission

Re: [Vo]:DGT Understands LENR

2011-10-15 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jouni Valkonen wrote: > And you really believe what Defkalion representatives says? There is > nothing for Dekalion, but it coulisse. There are no personals employed and > they do not have infrastructure and research and they do not posses any > money. Where did you get this information? - Je

Re: [Vo]:Rossi heat exchanger fitting / SOME flow data

2011-10-15 Thread Raymond Zreick
Hello. At http://www.focus.it/scienza/e-cat_collezione_C9.aspx you will find a collection of 120 images and at http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL360E4122CB586EB7&feature=viewall 20 short videoclips of the E-Cat test (2011, oct. 6). The collection is not for public purpose (despite a misunder

[Vo]:Rossi unveils some operative ranges of commercial product

2011-10-15 Thread Michele Comitini
I think this Q&A was worth reporting here. Could be an indirect answer to DGT claims. 450° C could make it more appealing for electricity production, but not everything is clear. Is it the max temperature differential or the max absolute temperature? mic --- Bill N

Re: [Vo]:DGT Understands LENR

2011-10-15 Thread Daniel Rocha
It is extremely easy to prove within a few seconds that any of these devices work, without any kind of calorimetry, water heat or steam. Take it to the neutrino detector in Gran Sasso, Italy. The neutrino emission of Hyperion and Ecats must be extremely high, so there will be certainly a strong sig

RE: [Vo]:DGT Understands LENR

2011-10-15 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
Mr. Murray sez: > Defkalion spokesman seems defensive, offering hot air... "Defensive"? "Hot air"? Rich, you did read the original author's, Gaby de Wilde's, statement, didn't you? Seems to me that DGT had every right to take exception to Gaby's brief statement claiming that LENR is a field tha

Re: [Vo]:DGT Understands LENR

2011-10-15 Thread Jouni Valkonen
I would add to that, that Defkalion did not even see a private demonstration with Rossi, expect those made with Stremmenos. That is because price tag for private demonstration is if I recall $45M. This much cash Rossi wants to see before he allows private demonstration. This is to make sure that hi

Re: [Vo]:DGT Understands LENR

2011-10-15 Thread Jouni Valkonen
Daniel Rocha wrote: > The best part here it is that they indeed confirm > that Rossi is lying about they not having the > necessary know-how to make the core WOW! And you really believe what Defkalion representatives says? There is nothing for Dekalion, but it coulisse. There are no personals

Re: [Vo]:DGT Understands LENR

2011-10-15 Thread Terry Blanton
I think they will stick with their November 2011 date. T

RE: [Vo]:DGT Understands LENR

2011-10-15 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
DGT sez: ... > Even though, we intend to support papers with results supported by > the measurements from new instruments we had to develop in order to > control and further develop the technologies embedded in our products, > in peer-reviewed magazines and during the first LENR Industrialization

Re: [Vo]:DGT Understands LENR

2011-10-15 Thread Rich Murray
Defkalion spokesman seems defensive, offering hot air... If true, the anomalies must be made available to the world immediately, as any breakthrough in nuclear physics is a world security issue...

Re: [Vo]:DGT Understands LENR

2011-10-15 Thread Daniel Rocha
The best part here it is that they indeed confirm that Rossi is lying about they not having the necessary know-how to make the core WOW! 2011/10/15 Terry Blanton > http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=3407#p3407 > > > > Defkalion GT > Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 11:04 am > > J

[Vo]:DGT Understands LENR

2011-10-15 Thread Terry Blanton
http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=3407#p3407 Defkalion GT Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 11:04 am Joined: Fri Jun 24, 2011 6:56 am Posts: 152 > Gaby de Wilde wrote: > LENR is clearly an area where we don't know what is going on. Dear sir, with all respect to your opin

[Vo]:Oilies Notice Rossi

2011-10-15 Thread Terry Blanton
http://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Are-we-on-the-Brink-of-an-Energy-Revolution-Andrea-Rossi-to-Build-1MW-Power-Plant.html http://goo.gl/mLLGY "Are we on the Brink of an Energy Revolution? Andrea Rossi to Build 1MW Power Plant Written by Al Fin Thursday, 13 October 2

Re: [Vo]:Re: manifold thermal model HERE

2011-10-15 Thread Peter Heckert
Possibly you can advantageously use the symmetry to simplify this. If there is 100° at the steam inlet and 30° at the water side, then there must be (100+30)/2 = 65° in the middle. If figure A) is realistic, then the temperature at the thermoelement must be larger than (65+30)/2=47.5 degree

Re: [Vo]:Re: manifold thermal model HERE

2011-10-15 Thread Jed Rothwell
Robert Lynn wrote: Look in the Temp data Ecat_6_10_11.xls file on nyteknic site at 11:22:01, It > does disagree with Mat's report, and it is possible there was a > transcription error or somesuch. Note that the secondary water flow started > at 11:00 That is: http://www.nyteknik.se/incoming/a

Re: [Vo]:New Bob Higgins diagram

2011-10-15 Thread Horace Heffner
This is a very nice diagram. However, as I showed in the "T2 THERMOCOUPLE LOCATION" in: http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/Rossi6Oct2011Review.pdf the center of the thermocouple comes down precisely on the edge of the fins. On Oct 14, 2011, at 10:34 AM, Alan J Fletcher wrote: Bob Higgi

Re: [Vo]:Re: manifold thermal model HERE

2011-10-15 Thread Horace Heffner
On Oct 15, 2011, at 2:05 AM, Robert Lynn wrote: Look in the Temp data Ecat_6_10_11.xls file on nyteknic site at 11:22:01, Could you post a link please? It does disagree with Mat's report, and it is possible there was a transcription error or somesuch. Note that the secondary water f

Re: [Vo]:Re: manifold thermal model HERE

2011-10-15 Thread Robert Lynn
Look in the Temp data Ecat_6_10_11.xls file on nyteknic site at 11:22:01, It does disagree with Mat's report, and it is possible there was a transcription error or somesuch. Note that the secondary water flow started at 11:00 On 14 October 2011 20:12, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Robert Lynn wrote: >