If I studied close enough the inside of a computer that has MS Windows
installed on it, without ever switching it on, I can still see and
understand the expected behaviour. The software program is persisted as
ones and zeros on a memory device.
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 3:58 PM, Jojo Jaro wrote:
>
Since there have been results of consciousness effecting quantum level
events multiple times, why should it be so absurd.
Based on research and experimentation I am doing it is clear to me that
quantum waves aren't just probability waves but are real waves in an actual
gas/fluid/superfluid aether.
Any psychological/psychiatric/philosophical attempt to understand the soul
is doom to failure from the onset.
Let says you're a hardware/ASIC/Electronics/IC engineer who designed the
Pentuim chip. Without understanding of the software, can you discern the
operation of a PC from your understan
Thanks Jack for the find. Good info. I love the idea of doing a CF
experiment via an Android phone app. Just add a couple of thermistors and
a hacked together current and voltage multi-meter function and you will
have all necessary measurements for calorimetry data collection. How is
the exper
Jed sed:
> Hey, I am a literal-minded guy.
Yeah, we kind'a know that about you Jed!
No offense taken.
As for Sagan, I think he got the last laugh - posthumously. I think he
got even with his superiors when he wrote his speculative novel
"Contact". If one reads the novel it's pretty obvious that
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 6:02 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
> Terry Blanton wrote:
>
>>
>> Thanks, Jed; but, it was not meant to be a literal, quantitative
>> statement.
>
>
> Hey, I am a literal-minded guy.
And we love you for being who you are!
Terry Blanton wrote:
>
> Thanks, Jed; but, it was not meant to be a literal, quantitative
> statement.
Hey, I am a literal-minded guy. What can I say?
- Jed
>From Terry:
> Thanks, Jed; but, it was not meant to be a literal, quantitative
> statement. It was meant to express a general willingness to
> be open toward the end.
I second that.
I have an anecdotal story regarding someone I knew who once
encountered Sagan in a casual setting. A group of co
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
> Military Association of Atheists
>
> Atheists in Foxholes, in Cockpits, and on Ships
>
> http://militaryatheists.org/atheists-in-foxholes/
Thanks, Jed; but, it was not meant to be a literal, quantitative
statement. It was meant to express a
Terry Blanton wrote:
>
> Yeah. You know what they say, "There are no atheists in the foxhole."
>
See:
Military Association of Atheists
Atheists in Foxholes, in Cockpits, and on Ships
http://militaryatheists.org/atheists-in-foxholes/
- Jed
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 3:06 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
wrote:
> Incidentally, I noticed that when Carl Sagan became acutely aware of
> his own approaching mortality, it seemed to me that his willingness to
> speculate on topics previously considered taboo became much more
> relaxed. When
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Terry Blanton wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Giovanni Santostasi
> wrote:
>
>> Orch-OR is not the best theory of consciousness.
>
> So, who wins that prize?
Well, while we await Giovanni's response, for those Vorts interested
in the development of the
At 01:03 PM 10/31/2012, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Adding stuff to Wikipedia is building a house of cards, or a
sandcastle when the tide is coming in. You know it will soon be
washed away. What is the point?
If nothing else, just to keep a record of active deletion (for anyone
who understands the "h
James Bowery wrote:
> McKubre pointed that out. He suspects it is a concerted effort by several
>> leading members of the opposition.
>>
>
> This is why I refer to her as a "pawn" and wonder what was the point of
> this sacrifice.
>
This will not hurt her. Even if cold fusion triumphs, people w
Alan Fletcher wrote:
Almost a day, and two entries on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_fusion
> are still standing. (Prelas, ICCF-18 hosting and Duncan welcome message).
>
Adding stuff to Wikipedia is building a house of cards, or a sandcastle
when the tide is coming in. You know it will soon
Lewis Larsen (Lattice Energy LLC) has posted a response to the recent
criticism of W-L theory by Ciuchi, et al, on Arxiv.org. See -
"Response to Sept 2012 Univ of Rome arXiv Preprint-Oct 30 2012"
http://www.slideshare.net/lewisglarsen/lattice-energy-llc-response-to-sept-2012-univ-of-rome-arxiv-p
Almost a day, and two entries on
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_fusion are still standing.
(Prelas, ICCF-18 hosting and Duncan welcome message).
(Might be a Sandy side-effect, of course. Nope -- the main deleter is
Irish)
I agree with that statement.
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 3:06 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson <
svj.orionwo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Terry sez:
>
> > Maybe your browser wants to see the www:
> >
> > http://www.bobpark.org/
>
> Yup! That was the problem.
>
> I find Park's rants on political machinatio
Terry sez:
> Maybe your browser wants to see the www:
>
> http://www.bobpark.org/
Yup! That was the problem.
I find Park's rants on political machinations much more appealing. I
suspect he should know.
Incidentally, I noticed that when Carl Sagan became acutely aware of
his own approaching mort
-Original Message-
From: Harry Veeder [
> I like Penrose. IMO he is the most philosophically sophosticated
physicist in academia today. I wonder ...did Penrose ever say anthing
about CF?
I don't know if he specifically addresses LENR in the modern context, but
even he was negative on CF i
interesting you quote semiconductors, because LENr and semiconductors look
very similar in behavior, and in quantum nature. Mess in the lattice.
unreliable components at the beginning. ignored results at the beginning,
assumed experimental errors discarded
My school was training us to make a MsC i
Maybe your browser wants to see the www:
http://www.bobpark.org/
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 12:04 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
wrote:
> Terry sez:
>
>> Lately Robert Park seems to be more interested in politix than fizzix:
>>
>> http://bobpark.org/
>
> I have been unable to reach the website.
I like Penrose. IMO he is the most philosophically sophosticated
physicist in academia today. I wonder ...did Penrose ever say anthing
about CF?
Harry
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Giovanni Santostasi
wrote:
> I love Roger Penrose great thinker. Hameroff is too out there. I think
> Penrose h
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Giovanni Santostasi
wrote:
> Orch-OR is not the best theory of consciousness.
So, who wins that prize?
I love Roger Penrose great thinker. Hameroff is too out there. I think
Penrose has dissociated from Hameroff because he went too far.
Orch-OR is not the best theory of consciousness. It has been debunked in
many different ways.
Giovanni
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 9:37 AM, ChemE Stewart wrote:
> If
Yeah whatever you might want to consider keeping your animals out of
plain sight should BO visit your neighborhood, because it's a given that his
appetite isn't limited to just Dog yummy!. Oh!, don't forget that BO's
IQ is so "HI" that it's literally "off" the charts (actually, it neve
>From the references Alain posted earlier in the thread, it looks like
conformity trumps everything. It must be in our genes - dissidents are
probably at a Darwinian disadvantage. Violating the pecking order is a
career-ender, for sure.
The case of Stanley Ovshinsky, inventor of amorphous semico
Terry sez:
> Lately Robert Park seems to be more interested in politix than fizzix:
>
> http://bobpark.org/
I have been unable to reach the website. Tried from two different
locations and at different times. Both failed
DId Park forget to pay the rent???
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.Orion
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 10:13 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
>
> She is arrogant. Pride goes before the fall. I would say this column is a
> gift to us, except that it is very well written. McKubre pointed that out.
> He suspects it is a concerted effort by several leading members of the
> opposition.
>
Jones Beene wrote:
> I am going to write to the head Librarian to request cancelation of all
> subscriptions to Sci-Am except for one or two to archive. I will cc to the
> mag. editors.
>
I think that is going too far!
They are not the only ones attacking cold fusion, after all.
By the way,
The county I live in (Marin Co. CA) is not large in population - but does
have 18 branch libraries with magazine sections. I suspect that all of them
subscribe to Sci-Am.
I am going to write to the head Librarian to request cancelation of all
subscriptions to Sci-Am except for one or two to arc
She did close and George end up defending cold fusion!
2012/10/31 Jed Rothwell
> Ouellette closed the discussion section of the article. (At least, she
> closed it to me.)
>
> I was going to tell her I summarized our discussion in the news item.
>
> - Jed
>
>
>
--
Daniel Rocha - RJ
danieldi.
Ouellette closed the discussion section of the article. (At least, she
closed it to me.)
I was going to tell her I summarized our discussion in the news item.
- Jed
If Neurons can sense Neutrinos it makes sense to me we could "synch up"
Stewart
darkmattersalot.com
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Terry Blanton wrote:
> I think Roger Penrose and Stuart Hameroff have the best explanation of
> consciousness to date. It's called Orchestrated Objective Reduct
I think Roger Penrose and Stuart Hameroff have the best explanation of
consciousness to date. It's called Orchestrated Objective Reduction,
or Orch-OR. The two actually developed the idea separately, Sir
Penrose being a physicist and Hameroff being a physician who
specialized in anesthesia and ca
Horrible and absurd nonsense.
Giovanni
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 10:50 PM, Patrick Ellul wrote:
>
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/28/soul-after-death-hameroff-penrose_n_2034711.html
>
> How far fetched is this?
>
> "According to Dr. Hameroff, in a near-death experience, when the heart
> sto
Popper at:http://noble.scienceontheweb.netTiny
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