Re: [Vo]:coupling processes of pseudo hydrogen atom (Rydberg state) inside a supercavity.

In reply to Jones Beene's message of Mon, 29 Jul 2013 21:41:39 -0700: Hi, [snip] >> While the height of the Coulomb barrier plays a role in the likelihood >that a >fusion reaction between e.g. Ni & H will occur, such reactions are not >energetically forbidden, i.e. they are exothermic, not endothe

Re: [Vo]:coupling processes of pseudo hydrogen atom (Rydberg state) inside a supercavity.

In reply to Jones Beene's message of Mon, 29 Jul 2013 21:41:39 -0700: Hi, [snip] >All nuclear fusion reactions that produce heavier >elements than iron cause the star to lose energy and are said to be net >endothermic reactions whether or not hydrogen is involved. Find 1 reference where it expli

Re: [Vo]:The recent ICCF18 (Defkcalion Demo)

On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 9:54 PM, Chuck Sites wrote: > Hi All, Wow! > >I've been watching and thinking about the Delkcalion (cold fusion?) > experiment, and wondered what you guys thought was actually happening there. > It was a great demonstration. That small device certainly seemed to get

Re: [Vo]:The recent ICCF18 (Defkcalion Demo)

did you read? http://www.slideshare.net/ssusereeef70/2012-0813-iccf17-paperdgtgx On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 12:54 AM, Chuck Sites wrote: > Hi All, Wow! > >I've been watching and thinking about the Delkcalion (cold fusion?) > experiment, and wondered what you guys thought was actually happeni

[Vo]:The recent ICCF18 (Defkcalion Demo)

Hi All, Wow! I've been watching and thinking about the Delkcalion (cold fusion?) experiment, and wondered what you guys thought was actually happening there. It was a great demonstration. That small device certainly seemed to get wildly hot. If H gas + some nano-NI powder generated that mu

RE: [Vo]:coupling processes of pseudo hydrogen atom (Rydberg state) inside a supercavity.

-Original Message- From: mix...@bigpond.com > Where they talk about endothermic reactions, they are talking about fusion of an element with itself, not with Hydrogen. Not true. Cosmologists are talking about ALL possible nuclear reactions. There are many types of nucleosynthesis progress

Re: [Vo]:Info for Luca Gamberale (CTO Defkalion Europe)

On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 8:56 PM, Axil Axil wrote: I would like to hear more theory discussed. LENR needs good scientifically > credible theory presented to lend it credibility. How are you in that > area? When MY was here, mailboxes became full with tons of nonsense and > important subjects were

Re: [Vo]:Info for Luca Gamberale (CTO Defkalion Europe)

Well, the subject is very important and certainly not nonsense, Which subject: Luca Gamberale or Mary Yugo? On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 12:07 AM, blaze spinnaker wrote: > Lousy :) > > Well, the subject is very important and certainly not nonsense, but if > Vortex is meant to be technical discussion

Re: [Vo]:Info for Luca Gamberale (CTO Defkalion Europe)

Lousy :) Well, the subject is very important and certainly not nonsense, but if Vortex is meant to be technical discussion only, I can certainly take this elsewhere. On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 8:56 PM, Axil Axil wrote: > I would like to hear more theory discussed. LENR needs good scientifically > c

Re: [Vo]:Info for Luca Gamberale (CTO Defkalion Europe)

I would like to hear more theory discussed. LENR needs good scientifically credible theory presented to lend it credibility. How are you in that area? When MY was here, mailboxes became full with tons of nonsense and important subjects were bypassed as a result. On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 11:48 PM,

Re: [Vo]:Info for Luca Gamberale (CTO Defkalion Europe)

On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 8:40 PM, Axil Axil wrote: > I don't want to hear about MY since she/he is a disruptive force in LENR > politics. > I'm hardly the only one that brings up that name here. I think Terry has, and Jed just did. I agree, Yugo is annoying though. If you'd rather ban the nam

Re: [Vo]:Re: Nicely Played, John Hadjichristos

Mary is all bark and no bite. Dave -Original Message- From: Craig Brown To: vortex-l Sent: Mon, Jul 29, 2013 9:49 pm Subject: RE: [Vo]:Re: Nicely Played, John Hadjichristos ROFLMAO - MaryYugo chickening out of a chance to prove everyone wrong. Classic. Original Mess

Re: [Vo]:Info for Luca Gamberale (CTO Defkalion Europe)

I don't want to hear about MY since she/he is a disruptive force in LENR politics. Is blaze spinnaker a reincarnation of MY? I am beginning to wonder. On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 11:35 PM, blaze spinnaker wrote: > On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 8:10 PM, Daniel Rocha > wrote: > > They won't do an independ

Re: [Vo]:Info for Luca Gamberale (CTO Defkalion Europe)

No, it is just an invitation to see they are not cheating. 2013/7/30 blaze spinnaker > On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 8:10 PM, Daniel Rocha > wrote: > > They won't do an independent *public* test. It is much less likely that > > they'd do for a big research facility if not for a commercial interest.

Re: [Vo]:Info for Luca Gamberale (CTO Defkalion Europe)

On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 8:10 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote: > They won't do an independent *public* test. It is much less likely that > they'd do for a big research facility if not for a commercial interest. That > is silly right now and they don't remotely need it. > > Really? They just offered to Ma

Re: [Vo]:Info for Luca Gamberale (CTO Defkalion Europe)

They don't need any of that. The public appearance is just a call for scientific collaboration. 2013/7/30 Axil Axil > DGT might want to impress patent evaluators, peers, and customers. > > They may want to stay under the radar as long as possible. I don't blame > them for this. > > > -- Daniel

Re: [Vo]:Info for Luca Gamberale (CTO Defkalion Europe)

DGT might want to impress patent evaluators, peers, and customers. They may want to stay under the radar as long as possible. I don't blame them for this. On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 11:10 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote: > They won't do an independent *public* test. It is much less likely that > they'd do

Re: [Vo]:Info for Luca Gamberale (CTO Defkalion Europe)

They won't do an independent *public* test. It is much less likely that they'd do for a big research facility if not for a commercial interest. That is silly right now and they don't remotely need it. 2013/7/29 Jed Rothwell > > I am still not 100% convinced by Defkalion. Mary Yugo made some va

Re: [Vo]:Info for Luca Gamberale (CTO Defkalion Europe)

> From: "blaze spinnaker" > Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 7:55:38 PM > My point is, they finally have someone who has a track record. I > want to hear everything from him. I'm sure that if you put up the $40M/whatever for a license -- you'd get all the face-time you wanted.

Re: [Vo]:Info for Luca Gamberale (CTO Defkalion Europe)

> Needless to say, this is mere speculation on my part. It is not proof of > anything. People sometimes do inexplicable things. > I more or less agree with your assessment, however, I think it's even much more unlikely that he'd go on publicly available video and start committing fraud. My point

Re: [Vo]:Info for Luca Gamberale (CTO Defkalion Europe)

I wrote: > I think it is unlikely that someone with his professional resume would > stay there if he thought there was fraud or funny business. I do no think > he would do that for an "OK" level of money. Because if there is fraud, his > reputation will be ruined and he will never again be allowe

Re: [Vo]:coupling processes of pseudo hydrogen atom (Rydberg state) inside a supercavity.

In reply to Jones Beene's message of Mon, 29 Jul 2013 06:21:43 -0700: Hi Jones, Where they talk about endothermic reactions, they are talking about fusion of an element with itself, not with Hydrogen. This is because in stars, by the time the mid-level elements are formed, the Hydrogen *in the co

Re: [Vo]:Info for Luca Gamberale (CTO Defkalion Europe)

blaze spinnaker wrote: > > If he did not think it was legit, > > surely he would not stay, would he? > > If the money is OK and he needs it, he might. He's not liable for > fraud until he starts lying to people. > I think it is unlikely that someone with his professional resume would stay there

Re: [Vo]:Info for Luca Gamberale (CTO Defkalion Europe)

> The fact that he is there, and he stays there, seems like pretty good > evidence to me. I trust that as much as I would trust a statement from him > saying "this is legitimate research." If he did not think it was legit, > surely he would not stay, would he? If the money is OK and he needs it, h

Re: [Vo]:Info for Luca Gamberale (CTO Defkalion Europe)

blaze spinnaker wrote: Come on... of everyone, Luca is the one who understands this the best. > > I want to read something (that I can at least auto translate) where he > says DGT is above board . . . The fact that he is there, and he stays there, seems like pretty good evidence to me. I trust

Re: [Vo]:Info for Luca Gamberale (CTO Defkalion Europe)

> As long as he is there working on the team I don't see why you care whether > he was part of this demo. > Come on... of everyone, Luca is the one who understands this the best. I want to read something (that I can at least auto translate) where he says DGT is above board, I know exactly what's

Re: [Vo]:Info for Luca Gamberale (CTO Defkalion Europe)

blaze spinnaker wrote: In my opinion, Luca Gamberale is the most credible member of the DGT > team (so far). The more I hear from him the better: > Anyone with english transcripts to the live stream from their DGT lab > in Milan the day before the English one? > > It was pretty disappointing th

Re: [Vo]:Ride a Shuttle Booster Rocket

On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 3:41 AM, Vorl Bek wrote: People on this list should enjoy this 400-second video > > http://tinyurl.com/m7b6wvr > > Thank you Vorl. That was really neat. Also a cautionary tale -- this is what will happen to a person if you're cut loose and your jet pack malfunctions. Er

Re: [Vo]:Info for Luca Gamberale (CTO Defkalion Europe)

"Interesting, but we should be careful about credentials in industry. I don't know if the Wright brothers have great credential, neither Lumière brothers, Edison, ... " Luca has been working labs all his life. I'm sure he understands measurement error. He also has a track record of publishing a

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: Nicely Played, John Hadjichristos

Yes. I can criticize but not verify.

RE: [Vo]:Re: Nicely Played, John Hadjichristos

Jed sed: > [Krivit] did not attend. I saw his badge was prepared, but he did not come. > > Abd was there! I saw the photographs of Mr. Lomax! Boy, he's a lot furrier than I had imagined! Nice smile. Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson svjart.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionwork

RE: [Vo]:Re: Nicely Played, John Hadjichristos

ROFLMAO - MaryYugo chickening out of a chance to prove everyone wrong.  Classic. Original Message Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: Nicely Played, John Hadjichristos From: Vorl Bek Date: Tue, July 30, 2013 8:24 am To: vortex-l@eskimo.com On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 15:10:26

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Re: Nicely Played, John Hadjichristos

On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 3:46 PM, Roarty, Francis X < francis.x.roa...@lmco.com> wrote: just venting the steam outside the room so we can see it on video to see > if any portion is dry would be a big boost… In fact John could easily > release a video of that now to be verified later.. > Unfortu

Re: [Vo]:Re: Nicely Played, John Hadjichristos

On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 3:24 PM, Vorl Bek wrote: I'd also like to know how you can feel > comfortable in testing a nuclear fusion device, with limited > experience, with guests present, without any radiation monitoring > and without any meltdown or explosion protection for the observers. > > Fina

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion apparently ignored heat of vaporization

On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 5:17 PM, David Roberson wrote: Simple is good! They achieved that with this test > My favorite simple test -- boil a large barrel of water for an extended period of time, feeding it with a measured input flow to keep the water topped off, and measuring of the power com

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion apparently ignored heat of vaporization

On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 1:48 PM, David Roberson wrote: I calculated over 20 kilowatts was being delivered. That seems like a lot. Here is 10 kilowatts: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eN5-nhcjH_A&list=PLF5DF775E5D70960F Eric

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion apparently ignored heat of vaporization

Interesting the reason they didn't increase the flow rate was because "[23/07/2013 22:11:08] Mats Lewan: I asked -- the answer is that the flow from the water pipe is not enough" http://www.quantumheat.org/index.php/en/follow/general-updates/309-iccf-fun On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 1:01 PM, Jed Ro

Re: [Vo]:Re: Nicely Played, John Hadjichristos

Daniel Rocha wrote: Have you seen Steve Krivit? > He did not attend. I saw his badge was prepared, but he did not come. Abd was there! - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Defkalion apparently ignored heat of vaporization

No steam was generated during the argon run. The temperature was too low. Dave -Original Message- From: hohlraum To: vortex-l Sent: Mon, Jul 29, 2013 7:13 pm Subject: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Defkalion apparently ignored heat of vaporization If I recall correctly they showed steam in the bla

Re: [Vo]:Re: Nicely Played, John Hadjichristos

Have you seen Steve Krivit? 2013/7/29 Jed Rothwell > Daniel Rocha wrote: > > Jed has a cool beard, so I want him. >> > > People seemed to enjoy my luncheon talk at ICCF18. Many people > complemented me, including two people I roundly insulted in the talk: Steve > Jones and Graham Hubler. > > S

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Defkalion apparently ignored heat of vaporization

If I recall correctly they showed steam in the blank run. - Reply message - From: "Jed Rothwell" To: Subject: [Vo]:Defkalion apparently ignored heat of vaporization Date: Mon, Jul 29, 2013 6:52 PM In this video there is a quick look at the steam tube inserted into the drain. http://n

Re: [Vo]:Re: Nicely Played, John Hadjichristos

Daniel Rocha wrote: Jed has a cool beard, so I want him. > People seemed to enjoy my luncheon talk at ICCF18. Many people complemented me, including two people I roundly insulted in the talk: Steve Jones and Graham Hubler. Someone said, "we didn't know you knew so much." I can't tell if that is

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Re: Nicely Played, John Hadjichristos

Defkalion will likely not measure the steam enthalpy. Don't insist on it. That's an obligatory gift. -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Re: Nicely Played, John Hadjichristos

Sorry to keep throwing Mats report at you, but this is an easy observation. Either the output contained water, or it didn't. If you believe in forgery, then anything is possible, of course; but otherwise, there's no doubt that it was steam. " - no consideration was taken to vaporization enthalpy.

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Re: Nicely Played, John Hadjichristos

I find it difficult to assume anything but dry steam at 150 C and atmospheric after such a long travel inside the pipe. Any water vapor would be heated by the high temperature steam traveling through it. This process should result in lower temperature but dry steam after several feet within th

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion apparently ignored heat of vaporization

In this video there is a quick look at the steam tube inserted into the drain. http://new.livestream.com/triwu2/Defkalion-US I saw it, but now I can't find it. It is around the 1 hour mark, I think. I wrote down 1:09 but now I can't find it. It was not very revealing. It did not show the steam p

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion apparently ignored heat of vaporization

This seems a little unfair to Mats. He calibrated the flow rate at the start of the demonstration and found that the real rate was actually greater than the indication by a few percent. This was performed at several different flow rates. Unless you assume that DGT faked the flow rate indicat

RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Re: Nicely Played, John Hadjichristos

It would be a great excuse to re-run the English demo with a full 8 hr vacuum on the argon so they get to full output and then let Jed take a look at that steam output.. just venting the steam outside the room so we can see it on video to see if any portion is dry would be a big boost... In fac

Re: [Vo]:Re: Nicely Played, John Hadjichristos

Jed has a cool beard, so I want him. 2013/7/29 blaze spinnaker > Yeah, I think that sort of the point. If John was serious he can't > really complain about Jed who's shown himself to be rather fanatical > about this. > > Jed, are you up for this? Hopefully you'll chime in on the blog and > s

Re: [Vo]:Re: Nicely Played, John Hadjichristos

Yeah, I think that sort of the point. If John was serious he can't really complain about Jed who's shown himself to be rather fanatical about this. Jed, are you up for this? Hopefully you'll chime in on the blog and say you'll do it. Why not? We should all go there and say "We Want Jed!"

Re: [Vo]:Re: Nicely Played, John Hadjichristos

MY's suggestion of having Jed run it would immediately be rejected by the skeptics as yet another test by a believer

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion apparently ignored heat of vaporization

The problem with dry steam is that it is invisible and Mats merely observed on the basis on what he thought was the sound of hissing gas through the tubes to determine presence and flow rate. Hardly scientific.

Re: [Vo]:Re: Nicely Played, John Hadjichristos

On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 15:10:26 -0700 blaze spinnaker wrote: > Presuming (of course) that's actually John Hadjichristos. > > If it isn't, still, well done anonymous troll. > Just to make sure it is seen by readers of this list, here are MY's two replies. I doubt Hadjichristos, if it was really h

Re: [Vo]:Re: Nicely Played, John Hadjichristos

Yeah, it looks relatively authentic to me. MY annoys me to no end, but I admit - nice comeback: maryyugoJuly 29, 2013 at 12:29 PM I have a better idea, John. Why don't you get Jed Rothwell to provide some independent testing and experts for you? I have contact with him and I will help him make it

Re: [Vo]:Re: Nicely Played, John Hadjichristos

John Hadjichristos would never allow a troll to misrepresent him. John H reads ego out religiously so such a scam would certainly be detected. On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 6:10 PM, blaze spinnaker wrote: > Presuming (of course) that's actually John Hadjichristos. > > If it isn't, still, well done an

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion apparently ignored heat of vaporization

On 07/29/2013 06:07 PM, Craig wrote: > Mats Lewan did observe that there was NO water in the steam during the > hot part of the run. Craig At the beginning of the demonstration, they also manually checked the flow against the meter, by measuring the weight of the water after two minutes of flow -

[Vo]:Re: Nicely Played, John Hadjichristos

Presuming (of course) that's actually John Hadjichristos. If it isn't, still, well done anonymous troll. On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 3:04 PM, blaze spinnaker wrote: > John Hadjichristos July 29, 2013 at 11:23 AM > Dear Maryyugo > > Why don't you come in one of our labs to conduct a test? It should b

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion apparently ignored heat of vaporization

On 07/29/2013 05:52 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > James Bowery mailto:jabow...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > There is no video of the steam output. > > > Are you sure? Someone told me there is. Have your reviewed the full 8 > hours? > I watched it all, and though I may have missed a moment or two, they

[Vo]:Nicely Played, John Hadjichristos

John Hadjichristos July 29, 2013 at 11:23 AM Dear Maryyugo Why don't you come in one of our labs to conduct a test? It should be independent, right? Under one condition: declare in public (say here, in this blog) your name and qualifications to check that you can conduct a really independent test.

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion apparently ignored heat of vaporization

>From what I recall from watching the stream life, is that they had water running down the waste entry in parallel to cool off the output of the reactor (being dry steam in optimum running state). On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 11:19 PM, Jones Beene wrote: > Before getting too worked up over the imp

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion apparently ignored heat of vaporization

Alan Fletcher wrote: > Doesn't look at all dry to me. If it was, you'd see a large gap of > invisible steam before you saw any droplets -- visible "steam". > Good point, although maybe the head is blocking the view. The Hydrodynamics ~100 kW steam plume was invisible for a couple of feet. - J

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion apparently ignored heat of vaporization

James Bowery wrote: There is no video of the steam output. > Are you sure? Someone told me there is. Have your reviewed the full 8 hours? > The credibility gap is better demonstrated -- as I implied -- by the > failure to drive a steam turbine to provide the input electricity. > >From what I

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion apparently ignored heat of vaporization

> From: "Jones Beene" > Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 2:19:58 PM > Before getting too worked up over the implications, there is a bit of > a credibility gap. > > This is what 1.6 liters per hour of dry steam looks like: > http://www.ajmadison.com/ajmadison/images/large/MR100_Steam_Floor_Head.jpg

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion apparently ignored heat of vaporization

Jones Beene wrote: > > This is what 1.6 liters per hour of dry steam looks like: > > ** ** > > http://www.ajmadison.com/ajmadison/images/large/MR100_Steam_Floor_Head.jpg > I cannot tell the scale of that picture. How big is the plume? Are you sure it is 1.6 L/hour? That seems a little low.

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion apparently ignored heat of vaporization

David Roberson wrote: They(DGT) intentionally left out the vaporization as a "gift to the > skeptics" according to what was stated. There is evidence that the water > was vaporized into steam which was then superheated to dry vapor. I > calculated over 20 kilowatts was being delivered. That i

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion apparently ignored heat of vaporization

They(DGT) intentionally left out the vaporization as a "gift to the skeptics" according to what was stated. There is evidence that the water was vaporized into steam which was then superheated to dry vapor. I calculated over 20 kilowatts was being delivered. Dave -Original Message

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion apparently ignored heat of vaporization

At this level, it should be possible to power a steam electric generator to provide the inputs. On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 3:48 PM, David Roberson wrote: > They(DGT) intentionally left out the vaporization as a "gift to the > skeptics" according to what was stated. There is evidence that the wate

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion apparently ignored heat of vaporization

Craig wrote: > Yes, here's Mats' comment: > > " The output was led down into a sink. Initially water was pouring down, > but at high temperatures there was no water dropping at all." > > http://matslew.wordpress.com/ > > Defkalion, at the beginning of the demonstration, made a comment that > thi

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion apparently ignored heat of vaporization

On 07/29/2013 04:01 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > > This is very conservative estimate of the heat output. > > - Jed > Yes, here's Mats' comment: " The output was led down into a sink. Initially water was pouring down, but at high temperatures there was no water dropping at all." http://matslew.wo

[Vo]:Defkalion apparently ignored heat of vaporization

I am looking at the Josephson version of the Defkalion video, here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHEtnTO3h6s It is a little more blurry than the original. At time 39:03 the numbers on the screen can be read. Total input is 1918 W. Output is 4295 W. T_in is 25.29°C, T_out 132.13°C, and the flow

Re: [Vo]:Ride a Shuttle Booster Rocket

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.space/N9ISaLUUyOw/tEiseAK-oh0J Newsgroups: sci.space Path: gmd.de!xlink.net!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!spool.mu.edu!uunet!magnesium.club.cc.cmu.edu!cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu!crabapple.srv.cs.cmu.edu!j...@pnet01.cts.com From: j...@pnet01.cts.com (Jim Bowery) Subject:

Re: [Vo]:Ride a Shuttle Booster Rocket

Why the space shuttle was technosocialist? Confused. Giovanni On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 11:05 AM, James Bowery wrote: > Hey! That technosocialist POS that set back progress in space by 3 > decades was good for something after all! > > > On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 8:43 AM, David Roberson wrote: > >>

Re: [Vo]:The Propagating Crack

Hardly specific enough to meet the criterion I set forth. On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Axil Axil wrote: > There has been an entire field of electrochemistry that has developed > experimental procedures which quantify this area. > > I estimate about 1800 people in the world work in this a

Re: [Vo]:Ride a Shuttle Booster Rocket

Hey! That technosocialist POS that set back progress in space by 3 decades was good for something after all! On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 8:43 AM, David Roberson wrote: > I agree! What a great ride. > > Dave > > > > -Original Message- > From: OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson > To: vor

Re: [Vo]:The Propagating Crack

There has been an entire field of electrochemistry that has developed experimental procedures which quantify this area. I estimate about 1800 people in the world work in this area. On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 11:47 AM, James Bowery wrote: > Is there really a coherent theory that has been bandied

Re: [Vo]:The Propagating Crack

Is there really a coherent theory that has been bandied about that even approximate's Walker's 1989 speculations? If so, is there an experimental test of said theory? If so, was the result positive? If so, Walker may be prevailed upon to replicate it. Walker's net worth was in the hundreds of m

Re: [Vo]:MFMP on a possible independent report of DGT's Hyperion

We have seen such a change in our society with the industrial revolution, when less people were needed to feed the others... what happen ? they moved to factory... it was hard at the beginning, huge poverty, social struggle, marxism, paternalism, social security, and in the 60s it was working well

Re: [Vo]:IRH

The geometry forms as a result of a dynamic process. The geometry forms the interface. * * *The *dynamic process involves mutual attraction of nanoparticles which drives the nanoparticles to clump together to form cavities, holes, voids, cracks… (Interfaces between nanoparticles). The IRM take

Re: [Vo]:Info for Luca Gamberale (CTO Defkalion Europe)

Thanks for the updates Interesting, but we should be careful about credentials in industry. I don't know if the Wright brothers have great credential, neither Lumière brothers, Edison, ... Luca gamberale have a great CV, but could be interpreted as very fringe... I know there was link between mo

Re: [Vo]:MFMP on a possible independent report of DGT's Hyperion

Terry Blanton wrote: > > BusinessInsider reports that 80% of Americans are unemployed, dependent on >> welfare or living near the poverty line. Areas such as Spain may be far >> worse. >> >> 80% might be *under* employed. Citation, please. > The wording is a little confusing. This means the to

Re: [Vo]:DGT Really Has Something Big

The demonstration we just witnessed by DGT should modify the minds of many sitting upon the fence. But, I recall the story about being able to lead a horse to water, but not being able to make it drink. This might be the situation regarding LENR. Many of the skeptics are just not capable of

Re: [Vo]:Ride a Shuttle Booster Rocket

I agree! What a great ride. Dave -Original Message- From: OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson To: vortex-l Sent: Mon, Jul 29, 2013 8:18 am Subject: RE: [Vo]:Ride a Shuttle Booster Rocket Wow! Thanks Vorl! I'll pass this on! Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson svjart.OrionWorks.com

Re: [Vo]:coupling processes of pseudo hydrogen atom (Rydberg state) inside a supercavity.

On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 9:21 AM, Jones Beene wrote: > > "Fusion of elements with mass numbers (the number of protons and neutrons) > greater than 26 uses up more energy than is produced by the reaction. Thus, > elements heavier than iron cannot be fuel sources in stars." Harrumph! Iron is whe

Re: [Vo]:MFMP on a possible independent report of DGT's Hyperion

On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 9:20 AM, Chris Zell wrote: > ** > I would add that, this radical economic change is rushing in upon us. > BusinessInsider reports that 80% of Americans are unemployed, dependent on > welfare or living near the poverty line. Areas such as Spain may be far > worse. > > 80%

Re: [Vo]:DGT Really Has Something Big

The amount of heat that is generated by the DGT device should be adequate to keep the reaction going without the additional heat from the resistors. This is somewhat different than Rossi's case because of the relative magnitude of the difference between the internal heat generated and that exte

[Vo]:The Propagating Crack

http://www.fourmilab.ch/documents/sftriple/nanofuse.html Written by John Walker, the founder of AutoDesk and co-author of AutoCAD, is amazingly prescient. While not totally compliant with the theories we discuss on CF it is astounding that it was written in 1989!

RE: [Vo]:coupling processes of pseudo hydrogen atom (Rydberg state) inside a supercavity.

Hi Robin, None of those reactions are net exothermic. You failed to include the energy necessary to overcome the Coulomb barrier, which was the gist of the original message. In all cases that high level of threshold energy, which must be expended, is greater than the yield. Tunneling does not c

RE: [Vo]:MFMP on a possible independent report of DGT's Hyperion

I would add that, this radical economic change is rushing in upon us. BusinessInsider reports that 80% of Americans are unemployed, dependent on welfare or living near the poverty line. Areas such as Spain may be far worse.

RE: [Vo]:MFMP on a possible independent report of DGT's Hyperion

>From Blaze: > Our entire economic system is based on this thing called money. > It's how we value opportunities. I'm not a materialist, but > I do appreciate having this objective measurement. As to I, to a certain extent. > Is it perfect? Obviously not. But it'll have to do unt

RE: [Vo]:Ride a Shuttle Booster Rocket

Wow! Thanks Vorl! I'll pass this on! Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson svjart.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/newvortex/ -Original Message- From: Vorl Bek [mailto:vorl@antichef.com] Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 5:41 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subje

Re: [Vo]:DGT Really Has Something Big

On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 3:11 AM, Teslaalset wrote: > HV units should have a higher efficiency than observed. > > The ones I have researched are 50% efficient at best.

[Vo]:Ride a Shuttle Booster Rocket

People on this list should enjoy this 400-second video http://tinyurl.com/m7b6wvr

Re: [Vo]:DGT Really Has Something Big

Beside that question, one participant "ajb" on lenr-forum make a quick optimistic computation, based on the safe assumption that Defkalion is fooling nobody... (I hear the moderate and hard skeptics moan already). http://www.lenr-forum.com/showthread.php?2136-Defkalion-Demo-During-ICCF-18-(Milan

Re: [Vo]:Info for Luca Gamberale (CTO Defkalion Europe)

Nice, you have some very good stuff on lenr-forum. Some other observations: - The web there in milan looks pretty deep with connections between defkalion / mose / celani / pirreli - It looks like Luca was working for Mose SRL during the intervening years. Wonder why he hides that. H

Re: [Vo]:MFMP on a possible independent report of DGT's Hyperion

I agree with precisely what you say. No vote, nor market, nor consensus decide what is true of false... however the problem is not what IS, but what IS ACCEPTED, and what you DO. Taleb moto about "flesh in the game" is that if you have buck or flesh in the game, you invest more energy to control

Re: [Vo]:Info for Luca Gamberale (CTO Defkalion Europe)

thanks, I've completed with details I have found before http://www.lenr-forum.com/showthread.php?2229-Info-on-Luca-gamberale-(Defkalion-Europe-ex-Mose-SRL)&p=5601#post5601 an interview in italian of Luca Gamberale

Re: [Vo]:coupling processes of pseudo hydrogen atom (Rydberg state) inside a supercavity.

In reply to Jones Beene's message of Sun, 28 Jul 2013 07:25:39 -0700: Hi, [snip] >BTW - It is seldom emphasized enough that proton fusion of all elements of >higher atomic mass than iron are net endothermic. How do you calculate this? Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.co

Re: [Vo]:coupling processes of pseudo hydrogen atom (Rydberg state) inside a supercavity.

In reply to Jones Beene's message of Sun, 28 Jul 2013 07:25:39 -0700: Hi, [snip] >Proton capture is net endothermic >with nickel and leads to significant radioactivity. 1H+58Ni => 59Cu + 3.419 MeV 1H+60Ni => 61Cu + 4.801 MeV 1H+61Ni => 62Cu + 5.866 MeV 1H+61Ni => 58Co + 4He + 0.489 MeV 1H+62Ni

Re: [Vo]:DGT Really Has Something Big

There is a discrepancy on the HV power indeed. At some moment in the video Mats remarked that he measured 1100 Watt input power of the HV unit. There was no instant response to that remark. The wall dispay indicated around 200-250 Watt HV input power to the reactor. Despite the fact that it was men