Re: [Vo]:The hydrino.is discovered.

2013-10-23 Thread Peter Gluck
Mill's present and future- as creator of a new energy source will be decided at nd by the CIHT Technology. see http://www.blacklightpower.com/wp-content/uploads/presentations/TechnicalPresentation.pdf It seems that the essential action- scale up and intensification is going more slowly than planne

[Vo]:The hydrino.is discovered.

2013-10-23 Thread Axil Axil
http://arstechnica.com/science/2013/10/new-type-of-quantum-excitation-behaves-like-a-solitary-particle/ New type of quantum excitation behaves like a solitary particle, a real particle. They call it a "leviton", we know this fractional charged soliton as a hydrino. What does Mills do now?

RE: [Vo]:A new theory of electromagnetism is in the works.

2013-10-23 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Thx Fran! RE: “Ether never really left but nice to see it returning to center stage.” It never left in reality, but it most certainly did as far as mainstream physics is, or was, concerned… RE: HUP… HUP is only a result of having to measure the weight of one of those angels on the head

Re: [Vo]:2014 History of Cold Fusion Calendar Available Now!

2013-10-23 Thread Eric Walker
On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Ruby wrote: cold fusion, LENR, LANR, AHE, quantum fusion, and HENI. > Maybe CFLLAQFH? Eric

Re: [Vo]:House of cards - the "big bang" model...

2013-10-23 Thread Eric Walker
On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Jones Beene wrote: A galaxy red-shifted to appear 30 billion years old is "really" much younger > when you apply the funky logic of "inflation" Kinda sounds like voodoo > economics to me. > Another variable in the abstract subject to creative bookeeping -- s

Re: [Vo]:Elforsk publish a "perspective" mini magazine, with E-cat among the stars

2013-10-23 Thread Eric Walker
On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: If they had something like a commercial prototype years ago, suitable for > testing, why are they still working with this crude gadget? > I recall seeing a link to slides somewhere on this list with advice to people giving demos -- something t

Re: [Vo]:How is the mainstream science misarable

2013-10-23 Thread mixent
In reply to David Roberson's message of Wed, 23 Oct 2013 17:24:57 -0400 (EDT): Hi, [snip] > >That would certainly explain the mystery. I have read some of the thoughts >about the lack of interaction, but others studies suggest that they do. I >recall some of the coding tricks that have been te

Re: [Vo]:Elforsk publish a "perspective" mini magazine, with E-cat among the stars

2013-10-23 Thread Jed Rothwell
By the way, there is NOTHING wrong with a crude prototype device. See the first transistor: http://www.don-lindsay-archive.org/talk/transistor.gif An early Diesel engine, probably better than the prototype that exploded: http://image.dieselpowermag.com/f/features/0912dp_rudolph_diesel/25492076/0

[Vo]:Dispute between Nature and Britannica over Wikipedia

2013-10-23 Thread Jed Rothwell
Okay, this is "inside baseball," meaning it is only of interest only to aficionados but . . . Years ago the journal Nature claimed that Wikipedia is nearly as reliable as Britannica. This article calls that finding into question: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/03/23/britannica_wikipedia_nature

Re: [Vo]:Elforsk publish a "perspective" mini magazine, with E-cat among the stars

2013-10-23 Thread Jed Rothwell
Alain Sepeda wrote: I agree that Elforsk and all evidence we have don't eliminate the risk that > E-cat does not work well... that it is unstable, unreliable, or have > problems... > Yes. On the contrary, the ELFORSK paper shows that it is unstable. It melted! The Hotcat version is clearly not

Re: [Vo]:How is the mainstream science misarable

2013-10-23 Thread David Roberson
That would certainly explain the mystery. I have read some of the thoughts about the lack of interaction, but others studies suggest that they do. I recall some of the coding tricks that have been tested that prevent interception of messages without detection of the tap. These techniques app

Re: [Vo]:How is the mainstream science misarable

2013-10-23 Thread ChemE Stewart
If you read M theory they believe gravity may "leak" from one dimension to another as closed oscillating strings. This is why I believe our solar brane is leaking energetic strings in our solar wind and we interpret them as weather disturbances as they decay overhead and around us in jet streams a

Re: [Vo]:How is the mainstream science misarable

2013-10-23 Thread David Roberson
I would like to see how this measurement was performed. Does anyone else recall the source? Dave -Original Message- From: Craig To: vortex-l Sent: Wed, Oct 23, 2013 5:09 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:How is the mainstream science misarable On 10/23/2013 05:04 PM, David Roberson wrote: >

Re: [Vo]:How is the mainstream science misarable

2013-10-23 Thread mixent
In reply to David Roberson's message of Wed, 23 Oct 2013 17:04:58 -0400 (EDT): Hi, [snip] >As I have mentioned before, the speed at which entangled particles interact >appears to be infinite and not limited by electromagnetic rules. > >If entangled particles have no speed limit, why should gravit

Re: [Vo]:How is the mainstream science misarable

2013-10-23 Thread Craig
On 10/23/2013 05:04 PM, David Roberson wrote: > Is there any evidence that gravitational waves travel at the speed of > light? As far as I know, that velocity is merely assumed by > Einstein. This may not be true since there are no measurements of the > components of gravity such as magnetic and

Re: [Vo]:How is the mainstream science misarable

2013-10-23 Thread David Roberson
Is there any evidence that gravitational waves travel at the speed of light? As far as I know, that velocity is merely assumed by Einstein. This may not be true since there are no measurements of the components of gravity such as magnetic and electric fields which define the speed of electrom

Re: [Vo]:Elforsk publish a "perspective" mini magazine, with E-cat among the stars

2013-10-23 Thread Alain Sepeda
I agree that Elforsk and all evidence we have don't eliminate the risk that E-cat does not work well... that it is unstable, unreliable, or have problems... what this article rules out is that e-cat does not exist, is not working at all, is a fraud... of course some will try to stick on their pos

[Vo]:2014 History of Cold Fusion Calendar Available Now!

2013-10-23 Thread Ruby
Greetings, For a second year, I have made a calendar that showcases the incredible achievements in the field of cold fusion, LENR, LANR, AHE, quantum fusion, and HENI. This year's "theme" is schools and colleges with faculty who have pursued experimental research, and gotten students involved.

Re: [Vo]:How is the mainstream science misarable

2013-10-23 Thread ChemE Stewart
I found the "cosmic" strings and gravity waves last year, they are looking in the wrong place :)... http://darkmattersalot.com/2013/07/21/just-for-the-hell-of-it-now-that-i-have-your-attention-i-am-going-to-repeat-myself/ Stewart Darkmattersalot.com On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 3:57 PM, Hamdi Ucar

[Vo]:How is the mainstream science misarable

2013-10-23 Thread Hamdi Ucar
"How Did Supermassive Black Holes Grow So Big?" http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/10/131023090952.htm Gravitational waves are never found, even there is no encouraging clue. GW possibly does not exist becuase c is not a limit. It is a comedy to give the 'upper limit' argument of non e

Re: [Vo]:House of cards - the "big bang" model...

2013-10-23 Thread David Roberson
I agree Jones. It will not surprise me to find that much that is thought to be true about science will be overturned with time. LENR acceptance by the physics establishment will become a perfect example. Dave -Original Message- From: Jones Beene To: vortex-l Sent: Wed, Oct 23, 201

[Vo]:House of cards - the "big bang" model...

2013-10-23 Thread Jones Beene
How to spin what would otherwise be a major embarrassment http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v502/n7472/full/nature12657.html A galaxy red-shifted to appear 30 billion years old is "really" much younger when you apply the funky logic of "inflation" Kinda sounds like voodoo economics to

Re: [Vo]:Elforsk publish a "perspective" mini magazine, with E-cat among the stars

2013-10-23 Thread Jed Rothwell
Blaze Spinnaker wrote: Impressive. Looks like Elforsk has decided that the May report has some > merit. > As noted they already said that in the previous press release: "The measurements show that the catalyst gives substantially more energy than can be explained by ordinary chemical reactions

Re: [Vo]:Elforsk publish a "perspective" mini magazine, with E-cat among the stars

2013-10-23 Thread Alain Sepeda
It is a finding from david...he posted it on the forum. probably from the mouth of the horse... ;-) 2013/10/23 Jed Rothwell > Alain: > > Thanks for posting this. Do you know where the original Swedish document > is? > > - Jed > >

RE: [Vo]:A new theory of electromagnetism is in the works.

2013-10-23 Thread Frank roarty
Mark, Nicely said! Ether never really left but nice to see it returning to center stage. Changes in this ether / vacuum density due to nano geometry can however polarize - segregate larger pockets of altered vacuum pressure encompassing entire atoms and molecules –and when these atoms or molecules

Re: [Vo]:Elforsk publish a "perspective" mini magazine, with E-cat among the stars

2013-10-23 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
Impressive. Looks like Elforsk has decided that the May report has some merit. This is definitely an event which increases the probability of what Rossi is doing will work. On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 12:27 AM, Sunil Shah wrote: > An overview is to be expected. The final paragraph says: > > "The

RE: [Vo]:Elforsk publish a "perspective" mini magazine, with E-cat among the stars

2013-10-23 Thread Sunil Shah
An overview is to be expected. The final paragraph says: "There are an estimated 20 something players, who in one way or another are active or doing research in the cold fusion domain. On behalf of Elforsk, an overview of the current stance in research, findings, etc., is being compiled. The