Re: [Vo]:the nascent discipline of LENR Engineering

2016-02-19 Thread Axil Axil
http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/2011/jul/19/radioactive-decay-accounts-for-half-of-earths-heat Radioactive decay accounts for half of Earth's heat "One thing we can say with near certainty is that radioactive decay alone is not enough to account for Earth's heat energy," says KamLAND col

Re: [Vo]:Intelligent robots threaten millions of jobs

2016-02-19 Thread Eric Walker
On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 1:29 PM, Alain Sepeda wrote: Someone in france, Gaspard Koenig support an interesting view on liberalism. > the system should support autonomy, meaning that people should be secure > enough to dare to behave autonomously and not to depend on anybody. > I like this line of

Re: [Vo]:Intelligent Robots??

2016-02-19 Thread Eric Walker
On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 2:48 PM, Eric Walker wrote: Here is Bill O'Reilly's rebuttal, which I haven't fully read, but include > for anyone who is interested: > Sorry! That's Tim O'Reilly, not Bill O'Reilly. Eric

Re: [Vo]:Intelligent Robots??

2016-02-19 Thread Lennart Thornros
Chris I agree with you about the equality under law. It is a joke. OJ Simpson etc. The poll you showed I am less impressed with. Too many of the questions are based on the government and how it is done. That type of question will probably make people vote along party lines. It does not say how many

Re: [Vo]:Intelligent Robots??

2016-02-19 Thread Eric Walker
Here is a piece by Paul Graham, beloved of the startup crowd for his involvement in Y Combinator: http://www.paulgraham.com/ineq.html In this piece, Graham advances the depressing thesis that the post-WWII period of middle-class prosperity was a historical moment, and that what we are seeing now

Re: [Vo]:Intelligent Robots??

2016-02-19 Thread Jed Rothwell
Chris Zell wrote: Attitudes of the rich? > > > > > https://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/05/29/1302820/-Someone-finally-polled-the-1-And-it-s-not-pretty?detail=emailclassic > > > > There you go. Yes, they have a tendency to be SOB’s. > Ugh. Well . . . On the other hand, 13% of them say it is "the

[Vo]:Intelligent Robots??

2016-02-19 Thread Chris Zell
Attitudes of the rich? https://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/05/29/1302820/-Someone-finally-polled-the-1-And-it-s-not-pretty?detail=emailclassic There you go. Yes, they have a tendency to be SOB's.

Re: [Vo]:Intelligent robots threaten millions of jobs

2016-02-19 Thread Alain Sepeda
2016-02-19 18:00 GMT+01:00 H LV : > However, basic > ​income ​ > should be high enough so that paid work does not need to be incentivized > by money. Paid work > Someone in france, Gaspard Koenig support an interesting view on liberalism. the system should support autonomy, meaning that people sh

Re: [Vo]:Intelligent robots threaten millions of jobs

2016-02-19 Thread Jed Rothwell
H LV wrote: > A similar judgement can be made about slavery: it is bad for the economy > because it is inefficient. > Yes. That was true even in the 19th century, which is one the reasons the U.S. north was wealthier than the south. Coerced labor is inherently inefficient. Nowadays, even enthu

[Vo]:the nascent discipline of LENR Engineering

2016-02-19 Thread Peter Gluck
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2016/02/feb-19-2016-toward-new-discipline-of.html The results of the 350 days Test- a 30 days mystery? Positive or negative but NOT imaginary peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

Re: [Vo]:Intelligent robots threaten millions of jobs

2016-02-19 Thread H LV
On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 3:18 AM, Alain Sepeda wrote: > > > the good way to judge policy is not through morality, but through > incentive network. > > >> A similar judgement can be made about slavery: it is bad for the economy because it is inefficient. The argument sounds good, but slave owners a

Fwd: [Vo]:Intelligent robots make millions of jobs

2016-02-19 Thread Frank Znidarsic
The books are soft. The apps are soft. The board will have a value added software injection. We are making nothing at all, just vaporware; but there they are products. Welcome to a strange new land.. -Original Message- From: Frank Znidarsic To: vortex-l ; rvargo1062 Sent: Fri, Fe

Re: [Vo]:Intelligent robots make millions of jobs

2016-02-19 Thread Frank Znidarsic
Again I am using new technology to take products to market. I could never do this with 1990 technology. I am working with a friend Ron A. on the next generation of Monitoring. A board will blue tooth into a tablet. The tablet will send alarm messages upon a contact closure on the board. We

[Vo]:Intelligent Robots??

2016-02-19 Thread Chris Zell
I know this is a bit off topics but we have drifted off into utopian (or dystopian?) scenarios. In the US, there is a severe problem with the lack of equality under law. Whether it's a lack of public defenders or Federal agencies that thuggishly pursue small companies instead of big ones, the p

Re: [Vo]:Intelligent robots threaten millions of jobs

2016-02-19 Thread Jed Rothwell
Alain Sepeda wrote: if you have an income that is not removed if you work and get paid, > whatever it is, then you have no incentive not to work, and much incentive > to work, even for cheap, but never if it is not productive. > That is true, and important. Many wealthy people work hard even tho

Re: [Vo]:Intelligent robots threaten millions of jobs

2016-02-19 Thread Alain Sepeda
to explain more simply the interest of UNCONDITIONAL basic income. if you have an income that is not removed if you work and get paid, whatever it is, then you have no incentive not to work, and much incentive to work, even for cheap, but never if it is not productive. In this way basic income, un