RE: [Vo]:Should Mills and Rossi be lumped together?

2017-03-26 Thread bobcook39923
Jones— I assume you lump Rossi’s one-month Lugano test in with your definition of scam-built “half-truths” tests. We will see. Bob Cook. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Jones Beene Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2017 6:49 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Should Mills and Rossi be l

Re: [Vo]:Should Mills and Rossi be lumped together?

2017-03-26 Thread Jones Beene
a.ashfield wrote: ...Supposedly the plasma is >3500C. A plasma at 3500C is commonplace and found in every house - but almost meaningless in terms of energy content... yet typical of Mills' genius at deception. The plasma in a common 5 watt CFL can be >6000C. Electrons in a plasma can be very

Re: [Vo]:Should Mills and Rossi be lumped together?

2017-03-26 Thread a.ashfield
Supposedly the plasma is >3500C. As it runs without any input power why do you not think it generates any (excess) heat? AA On 3/26/2017 7:35 PM, Brian Ahern wrote: They needn't be lying. Measuring energy flow with a plasma is challenging.

Re: [Vo]:Should Mills and Rossi be lumped together?

2017-03-26 Thread Jones Beene
As for "non-radiation" of dense hydrogen, according to Mayer the binding energy of the electron in dense hydrogen is around 3.7 keV. A single x-ray of this energy is emitted on densification, which is contrary to Mills view of multiple steps. Once radiated, of course, the dense hydrogen then h

Re: [Vo]:Feynman on conservative vs non-conservative forces

2017-03-26 Thread Brian Ahern
From: Axil Axil Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2017 12:52 PM To: vortex-l Subject: Re: [Vo]:Feynman on conservative vs non-conservative forces A magnetic monopole can emerge from a quasiparticle alignment of photon spin as experiment shows Half-solitons in a polarit

Re: [Vo]:Should Mills and Rossi be lumped together?

2017-03-26 Thread Brian Ahern
They needn't be lying. Measuring energy flow with a plasma is challenging. From: a.ashfield Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2017 1:19 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Should Mills and Rossi be lumped together? Brian, Apart from some calorimetry on the SunCel

Re: [Vo]:Should Mills and Rossi be lumped together?

2017-03-26 Thread Bob Higgins
Hi Robin, *Sorry to have mis-associated the credit for this observation!* It is a good one. Bob On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 1:47 PM, wrote: > In reply to Bob Higgins's message of Sat, 25 Mar 2017 09:33:46 -0600: > Hi, > [snip] > >The predicted properties of the hydrino or any sub-ground-state hy

Re: [Vo]:Should Mills and Rossi be lumped together?

2017-03-26 Thread mixent
In reply to Bob Higgins's message of Sat, 25 Mar 2017 09:33:46 -0600: Hi, [snip] >The predicted properties of the hydrino or any sub-ground-state hydrogen >suggest that it will be really hard to detect. According to Meulenberg, >these states lack sufficient angular momentum to have a photon >tran

[Vo]:LENR Sunday edition

2017-03-26 Thread Peter Gluck
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2017/03/mar-26-2017-lenr-sunday-edition.html peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

Re: [Vo]:Vital Dust

2017-03-26 Thread Jess Tauber
While not having read the book the nature of the origin of life has taken up a bunch of my own time on this world.  One thing one should remember is the role of much higher levels of radioactivity in those early days. Consider that many higher nuclides no longer present on the surface would still b

Re: [Vo]:Should Mills and Rossi be lumped together?

2017-03-26 Thread a.ashfield
Brian, Apart from some calorimetry on the SunCell in the early days, would you not think a self perpetuating plasma would produce some heat? Several (hired) independent investigators also back Mill's claims, or do you think they are all lying? AA On 3/26/2017 12:00 PM, Brian Ahern wrote:

Re: [Vo]:Should Mills and Rossi be lumped together?

2017-03-26 Thread Axil Axil
RM showed a COP of 3 using bomb calorimetry. This was before he discovered how to activate self sustaining plasma. On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 12:00 PM, Brian Ahern wrote: > A...". there is good evidence that the SunCell produces a large > amount of excess heat..." > > > Amazingly, even RM offe

Re: [Vo]:Feynman on conservative vs non-conservative forces

2017-03-26 Thread Axil Axil
A magnetic monopole can emerge from a quasiparticle alignment of photon spin as experiment shows Half-solitons in a polariton quantum fluid behave like magnetic monopoles http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1204/1204.3564.pdf On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 1:11 PM, Frank Znidarsic wrote: > All static

Re: [Vo]:Feynman on conservative vs non-conservative forces

2017-03-26 Thread H LV
On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 1:11 PM, Frank Znidarsic wrote: > All static forces are conservative. An electrical dielectric of contains > forces of opposite charge which only reduces the strength of the static > electrical force. > > There is no opposite polarity for gravity so the static gravitation

Re: [Vo]:Should Mills and Rossi be lumped together?

2017-03-26 Thread Brian Ahern
A...". there is good evidence that the SunCell produces a large amount of excess heat..." Amazingly, even RM offers no data or measurements on this issue. He could show water flow calorimetry to an accuracy of 50% within two days of set up and calibration. I would offer to pay for it and c

Re: [Vo]:Should Mills and Rossi be lumped together?

2017-03-26 Thread a.ashfield
Eric, I don't feel expert enough to pass judgement. I think that is the point. Physicists more expert than me can't make up their minds whether Mills is a genius or delusional. That he can come up with values for particles that are more accurate than from QM and that his program can show th

RE: [Vo]:Should Mills and Rossi be lumped together?

2017-03-26 Thread bobcook39923
Adrian— I thought the very same thing. The established physics community ignores logic that would upset their apple cart with their rotting apples, and a growing hoard of golden eggs. In this regard IMHO Mills and Rossi should be lumped together. However, their new breed of geese, may be lay