Re: [Vo]:NETimes reports on failed Rossi test...

2013-06-05 Thread Claudio C Fiorini
"When and where was this? - Jed" Ask prof. Sven Kullander (ret.) or prof. Göran Göran Ericsson from Uppsala university or read the NET-article. Location was TSL (The Svedberg Laboratory) in Uppsala/Sweden - www.tsl.uu.se. It was after the failed test in Bologna (by SP Technical Research Institu

Re: [Vo]:NETimes reports on failed Rossi test...

2013-06-05 Thread Claudio C Fiorini
It is perhaps interesting to know, that the ecat was planned to undergo a real calorimetric test with professional instruments in a professional environment. An then... poff the ecat was "broken" before the test started.

Re:[Vo]:Anomalous input energy

2013-06-01 Thread Claudio C Fiorini
I checked it: I made an error. 147 V / 24 A were used in the test you mentioned, in august 2012, not november 20 in 2013.

Re: [Vo]:some more information about the december 2012 Ecat test

2013-06-01 Thread Claudio C Fiorini
Jed wrote: I do not understand what you are saying here. Are you saying that Rossi was present? Or that that he interfered with the experiment? I do not think that Levi or his co-authors has said that Rossi was absent. Only that he played no role in the testing, and he did not touch the equipmen

Re:[Vo]:Anomalous input energy

2013-06-01 Thread Claudio C Fiorini
Charles, a week before they started the test in december 2012 (dec. 7 to dec. 17, testing: december 13 to 17), on november 20, they did the same. The reactor was supplied that day by a AC tension of 147 V, and current was 24 to 25 A. Power is then 3.5 to 3.6 kW. The two resistors were connected in

[Vo]:some more information about the december 2012 Ecat test

2013-05-30 Thread Claudio C Fiorini
According to an article in the swiss journal "NET Journal" that has been published earlier in february 2013, a group of business partners of Andrea Rossi visited his "new laboratory" in Ferrara the day 14 of december 2012. The group saw the ongoing experiment and could take some pictures. The pictu

Re: [Vo]:new hypothesis to confute regarding input energy in Ecat test

2013-05-29 Thread Claudio C Fiorini
Joshua Cude wrote: ...I'm almost certain they were using 3-phase power on the input to the box. They write: "a control circuit having three-phase power input and single-phase output". And it's on the input that the power measurement is made, and so that's where it's relevant. That also forces a

Re:[Vo]:PCE-830 manual and 3 phases measurement

2013-05-29 Thread Claudio C Fiorini
Rob wrote: It should read 3P3W mode (page 12) and not in 3P4W mode Yes indeed. But why are the tensions around 237 V and not around 400 V AC? They switched the instrument in 3P3W mode, but being incompetent (my opinion) they connected only two wires to the phases but one to the neutral. The re

[Vo]:new hypothesis to confute regarding input energy in Ecat test

2013-05-28 Thread Claudio C Fiorini
In Italy they are discussing another hypothesis regarding the input power: The hypothesis is, that the load (the three inputs of the black box) were not connected between the phases and neutral, but between the phases. But, at the same time, the tensions were measured (by error or to mislead) betw

RE: [Vo]:possible error in power-in calculation in Levi et al paper

2013-05-26 Thread Claudio C Fiorini
Someone is playing a game with us. The picture is back: http://www.cobraf.com/forum/immagini/thumbs/R_123517565_2.jpg

Re: [Vo]:possible error in power-in calculation in Levi et al paper

2013-05-26 Thread Claudio C Fiorini
I cite Andrea Rossi: Andrea Rossi May 24th, 2013 at 4:56 AM To the Readers: A friend of mine, Prof. of Electric Measurements , put me a question that I think is important to reproduce here: ” The measurement of the electric energy consumed by the resistance could have been affected by the fact th

RE: [Vo]:possible error in power-in calculation in Levi et al paper

2013-05-26 Thread Claudio C Fiorini
First of all, it is interesting to see that that picture has been deleted. A few hours after my comment. I don't know why, but i don't want to speculate. I will look for a copy. Filename was R_123517565_2.jpg Perhaps Google finds something. If I find it, i will tell it here. @Alan: you measure the

Re: [Vo]:How to use a clamp on ammeter

2013-05-26 Thread Claudio C Fiorini
Jed: there is a picture available showing the placement of the 3 clamp meters during one of the ECAT (hot cat) tests in december 2012 or march 2013. Will look for that picture. In order to get the highest value, you should place the clamp meter perpendicular to the cable and keep it away from other

Re: [Vo]:possible error in power-in calculation in Levi et al paper

2013-05-25 Thread Claudio C Fiorini
.com > *Sent:* Saturday, May 25, 2013 2:48 PM > *Subject:* RE: [Vo]:possible error in power-in calculation in Levi et al > paper > > ** ** > > *From:* Claudio C Fiorini > > ** ** > > But current #3 was 6.18 A AC, meaning that energy was consumed on that > thir

[Vo]:possible error in power-in calculation in Levi et al paper

2013-05-25 Thread Claudio C Fiorini
This is my first mail to this group. I just found an interesting comment in an italian blog. ( http://fusionefredda.wordpress.com/2013/05/09/rossi-2/) A apparently german commentator writes about a picture that has been taken during the december 2012 test in Ferrara. The picture shows the cifers