Re: [Vo]: Bohr model and hydrinos (was Re: New Hydrino page posted)

2006-12-17 Thread Michel Jullian
;Robin van Spaandonk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 11:37 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]: Bohr model and hydrinos (was Re: New Hydrino page posted) > In reply to Frederick Sparber's message of Sat, 16 Dec 2006 05:37:50 -0700: > Hi Fred, > [snip]

Re: [Vo]: Bohr model and hydrinos (was Re: New Hydrino page posted)

2006-12-16 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Sat, 16 Dec 2006 08:48:55 -0800: Hi, [snip] >I would expect the actual energy balance to be >less than indicated, since this probably does not take into account the >energy already shed to get to the Hy state - but anyway it is substantial. Since all the ene

Re: [Vo]: Bohr model and hydrinos (was Re: New Hydrino page posted)

2006-12-16 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Sat, 16 Dec 2006 08:48:55 -0800: Hi, [snip] >It would be very interesting to know, for instance, if there is any >surplus of 38Ar in the Aurora Borealis, or in Robin's case the Aurora >Australis. [snip] Since there is always a small amount of 38Ar present in

Re: [Vo]: Bohr model and hydrinos (was Re: New Hydrino page posted)

2006-12-16 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Frederick Sparber's message of Sat, 16 Dec 2006 05:37:50 -0700: Hi Fred, [snip] >First cut response, Michel: > >1, Compton wavelength of the electron = h/mc = 2.427E-12 meters > >2, 1/alpha (137.03) * 2.427E-12 = Orbit Wavelength = 3.3258E-10 meters > >3, Orbit Radius = 3.3258E-10/2

Re: [Vo]: Bohr model and hydrinos (was Re: New Hydrino page posted)

2006-12-16 Thread Jones Beene
David Jonsson wrote: Hi Change permittivity €0 and you will get a different orbit. David Not to mention there is every reason to suspect that permittivity will change at subangstom dimensions. Especially if you have any appreciation for a hierarchical aether. What I like about Robin's

Re: [Vo]: Bohr model and hydrinos (was Re: New Hydrino page posted)

2006-12-16 Thread Frederick Sparber
nt: Saturday, December 16, 2006 2:05 PM > Subject: RE: [Vo]: Bohr model and hydrinos (was Re: New Hydrino page posted) > > > > OTOH Michel. > > > > I will concede that increasing the mass-energy of the electron enough for it > > to be "absorbed" into the proto

Re: [Vo]: Bohr model and hydrinos (was Re: New Hydrino page posted)

2006-12-16 Thread Michel Jullian
ssage - From: "Frederick Sparber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "vortex-l" Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 2:05 PM Subject: RE: [Vo]: Bohr model and hydrinos (was Re: New Hydrino page posted) > OTOH Michel. > > I will concede that increasing the mass-energy of the

Re: [Vo]: Bohr model and hydrinos (was Re: New Hydrino page posted)

2006-12-16 Thread David Jonsson
Hi Change permittivity €0 and you will get a different orbit. David On 12/16/06, Michel Jullian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Indeed Robin, as you wrote some time ago, the small radii of the hydrinos (shrunken H atoms) if they exist would facilitate the close encounters required for fusion. Th

RE: [Vo]: Bohr model and hydrinos (was Re: New Hydrino page posted)

2006-12-16 Thread Frederick Sparber
OTOH Michel. I will concede that increasing the mass-energy of the electron enough for it to be "absorbed" into the proton (along with creation of neutrinos) by about 0.8 MeV to form a neutron works in the sun to form deuterons. (P-e-P > D). Calling that a "fractional orbit" stretching it.

RE: [Vo]: Bohr model and hydrinos (was Re: New Hydrino page posted)

2006-12-16 Thread Frederick Sparber
First cut response, Michel: 1, Compton wavelength of the electron = h/mc = 2.427E-12 meters 2, 1/alpha (137.03) * 2.427E-12 = Orbit Wavelength = 3.3258E-10 meters 3, Orbit Radius = 3.3258E-10/2(pi) = 5.293E-11 meters. 4, Electron Orbit Velocity c/137.03 = 2.189E6 meters/second How do you ge

[Vo]: Bohr model and hydrinos (was Re: New Hydrino page posted)

2006-12-16 Thread Michel Jullian
Indeed Robin, as you wrote some time ago, the small radii of the hydrinos (shrunken H atoms) if they exist would facilitate the close encounters required for fusion. This reminds me I had promised Fred I would post a derivation of allowed (unshrunken) circular electron orbits radii in Bohr's se