Re: [Vo]: Is Big brother watching?

2007-03-09 Thread Harry Veeder
David Thomson wrote: > Hi Harry, > >> These days I am more concerned with Big Sister than Big Brother. > > Why is that? > > Dave > Big Sister is hard at work making the sexes equal. Harry

RE: [Vo]: Is Big brother watching?

2007-03-09 Thread David Thomson
Hi Harry, > These days I am more concerned with Big Sister than Big Brother. Why is that? Dave

Re: [Vo]: Is Big brother watching?

2007-03-08 Thread Harry Veeder
These days I am more concerned with Big Sister than Big Brother. Harry

Re: [Vo]: Is Big brother watching?

2007-03-08 Thread R.C.Macaulay
Howdy Vorts, Used to be plenty of snooping on the Dime Box Texas telephone system back when we used hand crank up auto-dialing features. Every snoop in town would lift up their phone and listen in to the most intimate conversations and latest gossip. Can you imagine the size of the building

RE: [Vo]: Is Big brother watching?

2007-03-08 Thread David Thomson
Hi Paul, > Any thoughts on Linux or Mac? The government's business is to know what its citizens are doing. You realize there are computer science divisions of the NSA and CIA, right? Do you really think they are sitting back and letting new technology defeat them? I only know a tiny bit about

Re: [Vo]: Is Big brother watching?

2007-03-08 Thread Paul Lowrance
David Thomson wrote: [snip] > Does it really surprise you that NSA is involved in VISTA? > They have been involved from the beginning since > Windows 95, only now they are getting an upgrade and you are paying > for it. How else are they going to pay for these black projects? I've always wonder

RE: [Vo]: Is Big brother watching?

2007-03-08 Thread Jed Rothwell
Stiffler Scientific wrote: Well, well! The old phone systems. disconnected the transmitter (carbon mouth piece) element from the phone line, by direct open contact. If you dispute this get an old phone and check it out. In the older systems it was not possible without modification. I do not d

RE: [Vo]: Is Big brother watching?

2007-03-08 Thread Stiffler Scientific
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 2:51 PM To: vortex-L@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]: Is Big brother watching? Stiffler Scientific wrote: >1) Prior to ESS phone systems, the old relay banks did not work well for >covert monitoring. It did require intervention from the phone company that >

RE: [Vo]: Is Big brother watching?

2007-03-08 Thread David Thomson
Hi Jed, >>Remember back in the sixties when it was a felony to open your >>telephone and modify it? > That is preposterous. The 1933 FCC rules forbade attachment to the telephone network of any device "not furnished by the telephone company." They said nothing about opening up telephones. Mill

RE: [Vo]: Is Big brother watching?

2007-03-08 Thread Jed Rothwell
Stiffler Scientific wrote: 1) Prior to ESS phone systems, the old relay banks did not work well for covert monitoring. It did require intervention from the phone company that controlled the switches. It was possible to bridge a line and have it monitored via another line, yet the best method was

RE: [Vo]: Is Big brother watching?

2007-03-08 Thread Stiffler Scientific
sage- From: Terry Blanton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 2:21 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]: Is Big brother watching? On 3/8/07, David Thomson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Future phones will be directly tracked by > GPS. You're living

RE: [Vo]: Is Big brother watching?

2007-03-08 Thread Stiffler Scientific
Jed Rothwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 2:03 PM To: vortex-L@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]: Is Big brother watching? I wrote: >Millions of people opened up telephones in the 1960s, including me. I might add that my father was something of an expert at spotting

Re: [Vo]: Is Big brother watching?

2007-03-08 Thread Terry Blanton
On 3/8/07, David Thomson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Future phones will be directly tracked by GPS. You're living in the past. :-) Most phones have had GPS chips since 2004. No one triangulates any more. It was a requirement of the Enhanced 911 service. Allegedly, I can turn this feature o

RE: [Vo]: Is Big brother watching?

2007-03-08 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: Millions of people opened up telephones in the 1960s, including me. I might add that my father was something of an expert at spotting and disconnecting 1940s era listening devices, because he traveled around Russia during WWII on U.S. Embassy business. The only way to get room serv

RE: [Vo]: Is Big brother watching?

2007-03-08 Thread Jed Rothwell
David Thomson wrote: Remember back in the sixties when it was a felony to open your telephone and modify it? That is preposterous. The 1933 FCC rules forbade attachment to the telephone network of any device "not furnished by the telephone company." They said nothing about opening up telepho

RE: [Vo]: Is Big brother watching?

2007-03-08 Thread David Thomson
y now they are getting an upgrade and you are paying for it. How else are they going to pay for these black projects? Dave -Original Message- From: Paul Lowrance [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 12:19 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]: Is Big brother

[Vo]: Is Big brother watching?

2007-03-08 Thread Paul Lowrance
People are talking about NSA working with Microsoft. http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/59ceb37bb8bf6ea0/63b615317e57df5b?#63b615317e57df5b Regards, Paul Lowrance