Re: [Vo]:13 GigaFLOPs

2013-04-29 Thread mixent
In reply to Joseph S. Barrera III's message of Mon, 29 Apr 2013 09:42:21 -0700: Hi, [snip] >On 4/29/2013 8:54 AM, Chris Zell wrote: > > > A bit of both. The headline seems to promise the reader a >breakthrough that doesn't appear - > >I can agree with that. > > > and is this technological effort

Re: [Vo]:13 GigaFLOPs

2013-04-29 Thread Joseph S. Barrera III
On 4/29/2013 8:54 AM, Chris Zell wrote: > A bit of both. The headline seems to promise the reader a breakthrough that doesn't appear - I can agree with that. > and is this technological effort a bit redundant? We don't know yet. As long as we don't, I think exploring multiple options is pr

RE: [Vo]:13 GigaFLOPs

2013-04-29 Thread Chris Zell
Article writers rarely write the headlines. It's a sad truth about journalism. Do y'all find fault with the article, or just the headline? A bit of both. The headline seems to promise the reader a breakthrough that doesn't appear - and is this technological effort a bit redundant?

Re: [Vo]:13 GigaFLOPs

2013-04-29 Thread Joseph S. Barrera III
On 4/29/2013 6:31 AM, Chris Zell wrote: > Thank you. When I read the article I wondered if I had missed the "breakthrough" somehow. It was a project planning milestone, not a scientific breakthough. "This week the project gained final approval for the design of the most technically challengi

RE: [Vo]:13 GigaFLOPs

2013-04-29 Thread Chris Zell
Thank you. When I read the article I wondered if I had missed the "breakthrough" somehow. From: James Bowery [mailto:jabow...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 4:25 PM To: vortex-l Subject: Re: [Vo]:13 GigaFLOPs Don't you know? Science a

Re: [Vo]:13 GigaFLOPs

2013-04-28 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jouni Valkonen wrote: Hot Fusion (if it is even possible in practice, it is very possibly just a > pipe dream) is only cleaner than light water fission reactors. Advanced light water reactors may be cleaner and safer. See: http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/KrakowskiRlessonslea.pdf - Jed

Re: [Vo]:13 GigaFLOPs

2013-04-28 Thread Jouni Valkonen
On Apr 28, 2013, at 5:55 AM, Eric Walker wrote: > Perhaps it is reasonable to call this kind of fusion clean in relation to > fission, but the label makes it easy to lose sight of the fact that it is not > all that clean. > Hot Fusion (if it is even possible in practice, it is very possibly j

Re: [Vo]:13 GigaFLOPs

2013-04-27 Thread Eric Walker
On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 4:17 PM, Alan Fletcher wrote: Not to mention Hot Fusion's dirty little secret -- all those neutrons make > the entire structure radioactive which the wiki article describes as a > "very short halflife" of FIFTY YEARS !!! > I noticed that. The article ref

Re: [Vo]:13 GigaFLOPs

2013-04-27 Thread Alan Fletcher
> From: "Terry Blanton" > Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 1:16:24 PM > > Sometimes a flop is just a flop. > http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/one-giant-leap-for-mankind-13bn-iter-project-makes-breakthrough-in-the-quest-for-nuclear-fusion-a-solution-to-climate-change-and-an-age-of-clean-ch

Re: [Vo]:13 GigaFLOPs

2013-04-27 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 6:50 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Jones Beene wrote: >> What a joke this is. > > Propaganda? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda

Re: [Vo]:13 GigaFLOPs

2013-04-27 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Jones Beene wrote: > What a joke this is. Propaganda?

RE: [Vo]:13 GigaFLOPs

2013-04-27 Thread Jones Beene
What a joke this is. The "breakthrough" is simply a lie - or a novel way to issue hyper-inflated PR in order to get more taxpayer funding for a loser project. Even OTEC is making more sense these days http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=lfrWE61EeQY Wonder why the geniuses at L

Re: [Vo]:13 GigaFLOPs

2013-04-27 Thread James Bowery
Don't you know? Science and politics are identical! On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > Sometimes a flop is just a flop. > > "One giant leap for mankind: £13bn Iter project makes breakthrough in > the quest for nuclear fusion, a solution to climate change and an age > of cl

[Vo]:13 GigaFLOPs

2013-04-27 Thread Terry Blanton
Sometimes a flop is just a flop. "One giant leap for mankind: £13bn Iter project makes breakthrough in the quest for nuclear fusion, a solution to climate change and an age of clean, cheap energy It may be the most ambitious scientific venture ever: a global collaboration to create an unlimited s