Re: [Vo]:2-New LENR Patent Applications via Alain Coetmeur

2014-08-06 Thread Axil Axil
Piantelli needs to produce a plasma and he is using energetic particles to do that. This radioactive material will be bad for home use of his reactor. Papp used the same method to increase electron numbers in the Papp engine. Or he could just be covering this base to stop the competition from

Re: [Vo]:2-New LENR Patent Applications via Alain Coetmeur

2014-08-06 Thread David Roberson
Interesting point Eric. These emissions might also act as high energy triggers. Dave -Original Message- From: Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, Aug 6, 2014 1:55 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:2-New LENR Patent Applications via Alain Coetmeur I

[Vo]:2-New LENR Patent Applications via Alain Coetmeur

2014-08-05 Thread Ron Kita
Greetings All, I just saw this on Alain Coetmeur s Scoop.it website. Not sure IF it made it to Vortex.yet: http://www.scoop.it/t/lenr-revolution-in-process-cold-fusion Ad astra, Ron

Re: [Vo]:2-New LENR Patent Applications via Alain Coetmeur

2014-08-05 Thread Axil Axil
Regarding the excerpt from the patent. *More in detail, during the process of orbital capture, H- ions can lose its own couple of electrons and form protons 1H+. A first fraction of the protons 1H+ is subjected to direct nuclear capture reactions by the nuclei of the same atoms of the clusters in

Re: [Vo]:2-New LENR Patent Applications via Alain Coetmeur

2014-08-05 Thread Kevin O'Malley
On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 8:16 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: Regarding the excerpt from the patent. *More in detail, during the process of orbital capture, H- ions can lose its own couple of electrons and form protons 1H+. A first fraction of the protons 1H+ is subjected to direct

Re: [Vo]:2-New LENR Patent Applications via Alain Coetmeur

2014-08-05 Thread Kevin O'Malley
If you have H+ and H-, wouldn't they have an attraction force between themselves? Sounds like Lochons. Lochon Catalyzed D-D Fusion in Deuterated Palladium in the Solid State K. P. Sinha http://arxiv.org/find/physics/1/au:+Sinha_K/0/1/0/all/0/1, A. Meulenberg

Re: [Vo]:2-New LENR Patent Applications via Alain Coetmeur

2014-08-05 Thread Axil Axil
Regarding the excerpt from the patent. *A list of deposition methods suitable for obtaining the cluster structure is shown in patent application WO2010058288.0 another exemplary embodiment, alternative, the active core can comprise a transition metal in the form of particles as powder, dissolved

Re: [Vo]:2-New LENR Patent Applications via Alain Coetmeur

2014-08-05 Thread Axil Axil
Regarding the excerpt from the patent. *The at least one electron-donor material is selected from the group consisting of: Cs, Ba, Sr, Rb, Li, Na, Ca, K, Fr, Ra, in particular this electron-donor material is Cesium. * If you remember, Cesium was my pick for the Rossi's secret sauce because it

Re: [Vo]:2-New LENR Patent Applications via Alain Coetmeur

2014-08-05 Thread Axil Axil
Regarding the production of nitrogen as a reaction ash product. _ * 4 2He2+ + 11 B - 15N + 10.991 MeV {6a}* Nitrogen is a LENR poison of the first order because it has a non zero spin. This patent author would be well served not to use boron in the reaction. On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 11:52 PM,

Re: [Vo]:2-New LENR Patent Applications via Alain Coetmeur

2014-08-05 Thread Kevin O'Malley
On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 9:03 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: Regarding the production of nitrogen as a reaction ash product. _ * 4 2He2+ + 11 B - 15N + 10.991 MeV {6a}* Nitrogen is a LENR poison of the first order because it has a non zero* spin. * ***I've heard that before.

Re: [Vo]:2-New LENR Patent Applications via Alain Coetmeur

2014-08-05 Thread Eric Walker
On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 8:52 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: *The at least one electron-donor material is selected from the group consisting of: Cs, Ba, Sr, Rb, Li, Na, Ca, K, Fr, Ra, in particular this electron-donor material is Cesium.* (From Piantelli's patent.) I'm not a fan of

Re: [Vo]:2-New LENR Patent Applications via Alain Coetmeur

2014-08-05 Thread Eric Walker
I wrote: All of the metals above appear to have low work functions. What is meant by electron-donor in this context appears to be that they're hot cathodes. ... Also note that some of the metals in the list are radioactive, so they or their daughters will give off alphas or betas or fission

Re: [Vo]:2-New LENR Patent Applications via Alain Coetmeur

2014-08-05 Thread Axil Axil
IMHO, emitting electrons is a red herring. True, electron production(pumping) has an amplification effect in the process but electrons are not causative in the way Piantelle believes. Piantelli has this concept of a negative ion that takes the place of an electron in the orbit of an atom and being