Re: [Vo]:Aliens Favour Romney

2012-10-26 Thread mixent
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Thu, 25 Oct 2012 10:18:19 -0400: Hi, [snip] Even if the producer felt that way, the programs arriving on earth would have left Alpha centauri five years earlier, and there would be no way of knowing how much is in the pipeline. That's why it is pointless

Re: [Vo]:Aliens Favour Romney

2012-10-26 Thread Jed Rothwell
mix...@bigpond.com wrote: Even if the producer felt that way, the programs arriving on earth would have left Alpha centauri five years earlier, and there would be no way of knowing how much is in the pipeline. That's why it is pointless without FTL communications. I would not say

Re: [Vo]:Aliens Favour Romney

2012-10-26 Thread ChemE Stewart
Guys, Just a quick strangeness update... My energetic particle model for the link between seismic/sinkholes and Hurricanes/Low Pressure Systems is predicting the most likely destination for Hurricane Sandy is Albion, NY, the site of a LARGE sinkhole which shutdown the Erie Canal for a couple of

RE: [Vo]:Aliens Favour Romney

2012-10-25 Thread John Newman
...@gmail.com] Sent: 24 October 2012 23:09 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Aliens Favour Romney mix...@bigpond.com wrote: There's a nice little SciFi short story about this (sorry, can't remember title or author). The basic theme is that trade is in concepts rather than objects

Re: [Vo]:Aliens Favour Romney

2012-10-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
mix...@bigpond.com wrote: BTW such a system will effectively have to wait at least until FTL communications are achieved. I'm with St. Albert on this. I doubt that FTL communication or travel is possible. Anyway, what I wrote is predicated on that assumption. Actual interstellar travel

Re: [Vo]:Aliens Favour Romney

2012-10-25 Thread Daniel Rocha
Maybe they should research how Europe traded with Asia before the telegraph. 2012/10/25 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com I've had it with those people at Alpha centauri! We sent them five miniseries last year, and they sent us only one in return. We're not broadcasting anything more in

Re: [Vo]:Aliens Favour Romney

2012-10-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
I meant to say: Even the concept of barter is cloudy when there is *NO* physical contact between the parties. Or when it is delayed by many human generations. I am assuming the human lifetime is not extended much beyond 80 to 100 years. I suppose there would be some physical contact. Hundreds

Re: [Vo]:Aliens Favour Romney

2012-10-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe they should research how Europe traded with Asia before the telegraph. Exactly! That was a similar situation in the 17th and early 18th century, where trade took a year or two for anything to happen. The European trade with Japan was awkward to

Re: [Vo]:Aliens Favour Romney

2012-10-25 Thread Harry Veeder
On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 10:22 AM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe they should research how Europe traded with Asia before the telegraph. Some of the trading occurred indirectly through intermediaries. Harry 2012/10/25 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com I've had it with

Re: [Vo]:Aliens Favour Romney

2012-10-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jeff Berkowitz pdx...@gmail.com wrote: The remainder of this paper is, or will be, or has been, depending on the reader's inertial frame, divided into three sections. That's wonderful. Still, I can't think of any reason for interstellar trade. If you can travel between stars you can also

Re: [Vo]:Aliens Favour Romney

2012-10-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: I am not sure what to call the software image you put into a replicator. Design? Blueprint? Genome? Template? Clarke described replicators in Profiles (1963). He called the instructions the matrix or memory. The ones we have now are only the beginning of the technology. Clarke

Re: [Vo]:Aliens Favour Romney

2012-10-24 Thread mixent
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Wed, 24 Oct 2012 10:57:27 -0400: Hi, [snip] Jeff Berkowitz pdx...@gmail.com wrote: The remainder of this paper is, or will be, or has been, depending on the reader's inertial frame, divided into three sections. That's wonderful. Still, I can't think of

Re: [Vo]:Aliens Favour Romney

2012-10-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
mix...@bigpond.com wrote: There's a nice little SciFi short story about this (sorry, can't remember title or author). The basic theme is that trade is in concepts rather than objects, since these are readily exchanged, and of value to many. Exactly. Concepts, and the templates for

Re: [Vo]:Aliens Favour Romney

2012-10-24 Thread mixent
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Wed, 24 Oct 2012 18:09:27 -0400: Hi, [snip] It is a little difficult to imagine how we might pay for this kind of trade. How could this be a commercial transaction in any sense? Obviously the only system that would work is barter. IOW payment in kind. BTW

Re: [Vo]:Aliens Favour Romney

2012-10-24 Thread David Roberson
jedrothw...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, Oct 24, 2012 6:09 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Aliens Favour Romney mix...@bigpond.com wrote: There's a nice little SciFi short story about this (sorry, can't remember title or author). The basic theme is that trade is in concepts rather than

Re: [Vo]:Aliens Favour Romney

2012-10-24 Thread David Roberson
: Re: [Vo]:Aliens Favour Romney In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Wed, 24 Oct 2012 18:09:27 -0400: Hi, [snip] It is a little difficult to imagine how we might pay for this kind of trade. How could this be a commercial transaction in any sense? Obviously the only system that would work is barter

Re: [Vo]:Aliens Favour Romney

2012-10-23 Thread LORENHEYER
Yeah, I suppose you could say that we're all aliens, except that Obama is an illegal Alien, now fraudulently serving as the President (I'm so proud). Of course there alot of so-called people in this country here illegally, and Obama is in good company.

Re: [Vo]:Aliens Favour Romney

2012-10-23 Thread mixent
In reply to Vorl Bek's message of Mon, 22 Oct 2012 17:46:19 -0400: Hi, [snip] It looks like Aliens (interstellar types) favour Romney for President. http://blogs.desmoinesregister.com/dmr/romney-temp/ ...maybe they're just predicting the winner, to prove who they are? ;) Regards, Robin van

Re: [Vo]:Aliens Favour Romney

2012-10-23 Thread Jeff Berkowitz
Krugman anticipate this. http://www.princeton.edu/~pkrugman/interstellar.pdf Jeff On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 8:39 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Vorl Bek's message of Mon, 22 Oct 2012 17:46:19 -0400: Hi, [snip] It looks like Aliens (interstellar types) favour Romney for

Re: [Vo]:Aliens Favour Romney

2012-10-23 Thread Jeff Berkowitz
Sorry for not including this in the first mail, but I have to follow up because it gives the flavor of the thing: The remainder of this paper is, or will be, or has been, depending on the reader's inertial frame, divided into three sections. ;-) Jeff On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 9:01 PM, Jeff

[Vo]:Aliens Favour Romney

2012-10-22 Thread Vorl Bek
It looks like Aliens (interstellar types) favour Romney for President. http://blogs.desmoinesregister.com/dmr/romney-temp/