Re: [Vo]:Cold fusion, heat from primary energy consumption, and global warming

Okay, so if 3.5 million quads are added by solar energy, I should adjust this: World primary energy consumption is roughly 400 quads per year. The US > consumes 100 quads. Solar energy striking the Earth's surface produces > roughly 8.2 million quads per year, 20,500 times more than this. > Solar

Re: [Vo]:Cold fusion, heat from primary energy consumption, and global warming

Alan J Fletcher wrote: > > That's the one! The last graph in particular. US only, and doesn't > support my "70%" (except as energy LOSS). > Here is similar data from the EIEA: Primary Energy Consumption by Source and Sector http://www.eia.gov/totalenergy/data/annual/pecss_diagram.cfm I do

Re: [Vo]:Cold fusion, heat from primary energy consumption, and global warming

At 05:52 PM 11/14/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote: Alan J Fletcher wrote: Probably this one: http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/NRELenergyover.pdf See the last page, from Lawrence Livermore. I have seen more recent ones, and some with more data, but I like this representation. I am big fan of

Re: [Vo]:Cold fusion, heat from primary energy consumption, and global warming

I forsee other times when thermal energy is produced to prevent global cooling. There will be global controls to regulate a stable climate, and the most powerful nations will clambor to have the global climate skewed in their regional favor. Harry Veeder wrote: >I can forsee a time when therm

Re: [Vo]:Cold fusion, heat from primary energy consumption, and global warming

In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Mon, 14 Nov 2011 22:32:11 -0500: Hi, [snip] > wrote: > >> >> This figure is too high. The amount intercepted by the Earth is 5 million >> quads >> per annum above the atmosphere, and then some of this is directly >> reflected back >> into space by cloud cover.

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I can forsee a time when thermal energy production on the planet might be limited by law to prevent global warming. By then the Earth will a "preserve" and most people will live off-world. Harry On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 10:15 PM, wrote: > In reply to  Jed Rothwell's message of Mon, 14 Nov 201

Re: [Vo]:Cold fusion, heat from primary energy consumption, and global warming

Jed Rothwell wrote: > We can tell that heat released by human energy consumption > does not have a significant effect for two reasons: > First, any heat release escapes from the atmosphere in about 40 min. This is untrue, because most of the heat caused by (cold fusion) power plants is not releas

Re: [Vo]:Cold fusion, heat from primary energy consumption, and global warming

On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 9:32 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > wrote: > >> >> This figure is too high. The amount intercepted by the Earth is 5 million >> quads >> per annum above the atmosphere, and then some of this is directly >> reflected back >> into space by cloud cover. >> > > Where did you get t

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120,000 TWs reaches the surface of the planet according to: http://www.sc.doe.gov/bes/reports/files/SEU_rpt.pdf "The solar availability at the top of the atmosphere is 170,000 TW, of which 120,000 TW strikes the Earth (the remainder being scattered by the atmosphere and clouds)." AG On 11/1

Re: [Vo]:Cold fusion, heat from primary energy consumption, and global warming

wrote: > > This figure is too high. The amount intercepted by the Earth is 5 million > quads > per annum above the atmosphere, and then some of this is directly > reflected back > into space by cloud cover. > Where did you get that info? I looked all around for that. I found that one site that

Re: [Vo]:Cold fusion, heat from primary energy consumption, and global warming

In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Mon, 14 Nov 2011 15:36:13 -0500: Hi, [snip] >Solar energy striking the Earth's surface >produces roughly 8.2 million quads per year, 20,500 times more than this. This figure is too high. The amount intercepted by the Earth is 5 million quads per annum above t

Re: [Vo]:Cold fusion, heat from primary energy consumption, and global warming

Alan J Fletcher wrote: > (I don't know if there's a name for that kind of chart .. a bit like the > famous Napoleon chart, showing the energy flow divided up into various uses. For those unfamiliar with this, the Napoleon chart is a *masterpiece* of statistical graphics. See: http://www.edwar

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That reminds me ... about a month ago you put up a DOE (?) report with lots of charts about energy usage. But I can't find it in my vortex files or on lenr-cad. (I don't know if there's a name for that kind of chart .. a bit like the famous Napoleon chart, showing the energy flow divided up i

[Vo]:Cold fusion, heat from primary energy consumption, and global warming

>From time to time, someone asks me about these issues. For example, someone sent me this comment from a discussion group, and asked how it might be addressed: ". . . global warming is about HEAT - atmospheric gasses like co2 & ch4 tend to cause the atmosphere to retain more of it - however, even