[Vo]:Elforsk publish a "perspective" mini magazine, with E-cat among the stars

2013-10-22 Thread Alain Sepeda
http://www.lenr-forum.com/showthread.php?2475-News-from-Swedish-Elforsk-about-ECAT&p=5900&viewfull=1#post5900 *ELFORSK Perspective * *Unknown "nuclear" process Can revolutionize the world's energy* *What is happening when the Italian inventor and contractor Andrea Rossi demonstrates his so-called

Re: [Vo]:Elforsk publish a "perspective" mini magazine, with E-cat among the stars

2013-10-22 Thread Jed Rothwell
Alain: Thanks for posting this. Do you know where the original Swedish document is? - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Elforsk publish a "perspective" mini magazine, with E-cat among the stars

2013-10-22 Thread Alan Fletcher
- Original Message - From: "Jed Rothwell" Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 5:21:22 PM Thanks for posting this. Do you know where the original Swedish document is? http://www.lenr-forum.com/attachment.php?s=6bf9aec8478c3175b2342cabf9c36a65&attachmentid=95&d=1382468657 Needs registr

Re: [Vo]:Elforsk publish a "perspective" mini magazine, with E-cat among the stars

2013-10-22 Thread Frank Acland
This will take you to the original Swedish document http://www.elforsk.se/Global/Trycksaker%20och%20broschyrer/elforsk_perspektiv_nr2_2013.pdf On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 7:38 PM, Alan Fletcher wrote: > > > -- > *From: *"Jed Rothwell" > *Sent: *Tuesday, October 22, 201

Re: [Vo]:Elforsk publish a "perspective" mini magazine, with E-cat among the stars

2013-10-22 Thread Jed Rothwell
Thank you! Frank Acland wrote: > This will take you to the original Swedish document > > > http://www.elforsk.se/Global/Trycksaker%20och%20broschyrer/elforsk_perspektiv_nr2_2013.pdf > >

RE: [Vo]:Elforsk publish a "perspective" mini magazine, with E-cat among the stars

2013-10-23 Thread Sunil Shah
An overview is to be expected. The final paragraph says: "There are an estimated 20 something players, who in one way or another are active or doing research in the cold fusion domain. On behalf of Elforsk, an overview of the current stance in research, findings, etc., is being compiled. The

Re: [Vo]:Elforsk publish a "perspective" mini magazine, with E-cat among the stars

2013-10-23 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
Impressive. Looks like Elforsk has decided that the May report has some merit. This is definitely an event which increases the probability of what Rossi is doing will work. On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 12:27 AM, Sunil Shah wrote: > An overview is to be expected. The final paragraph says: > > "The

Re: [Vo]:Elforsk publish a "perspective" mini magazine, with E-cat among the stars

2013-10-23 Thread Alain Sepeda
It is a finding from david...he posted it on the forum. probably from the mouth of the horse... ;-) 2013/10/23 Jed Rothwell > Alain: > > Thanks for posting this. Do you know where the original Swedish document > is? > > - Jed > >

Re: [Vo]:Elforsk publish a "perspective" mini magazine, with E-cat among the stars

2013-10-23 Thread Jed Rothwell
Blaze Spinnaker wrote: Impressive. Looks like Elforsk has decided that the May report has some > merit. > As noted they already said that in the previous press release: "The measurements show that the catalyst gives substantially more energy than can be explained by ordinary chemical reactions

Re: [Vo]:Elforsk publish a "perspective" mini magazine, with E-cat among the stars

2013-10-23 Thread Alain Sepeda
I agree that Elforsk and all evidence we have don't eliminate the risk that E-cat does not work well... that it is unstable, unreliable, or have problems... what this article rules out is that e-cat does not exist, is not working at all, is a fraud... of course some will try to stick on their pos

Re: [Vo]:Elforsk publish a "perspective" mini magazine, with E-cat among the stars

2013-10-23 Thread Jed Rothwell
Alain Sepeda wrote: I agree that Elforsk and all evidence we have don't eliminate the risk that > E-cat does not work well... that it is unstable, unreliable, or have > problems... > Yes. On the contrary, the ELFORSK paper shows that it is unstable. It melted! The Hotcat version is clearly not

Re: [Vo]:Elforsk publish a "perspective" mini magazine, with E-cat among the stars

2013-10-23 Thread Jed Rothwell
By the way, there is NOTHING wrong with a crude prototype device. See the first transistor: http://www.don-lindsay-archive.org/talk/transistor.gif An early Diesel engine, probably better than the prototype that exploded: http://image.dieselpowermag.com/f/features/0912dp_rudolph_diesel/25492076/0

Re: [Vo]:Elforsk publish a "perspective" mini magazine, with E-cat among the stars

2013-10-23 Thread Eric Walker
On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: If they had something like a commercial prototype years ago, suitable for > testing, why are they still working with this crude gadget? > I recall seeing a link to slides somewhere on this list with advice to people giving demos -- something t

Re: [Vo]:Elforsk publish a "perspective" mini magazine, with E-cat among the stars

2013-10-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
Eric Walker wrote: I recall seeing a link to slides somewhere on this list with advice to > people giving demos -- something to the effect that you should demo an > earlier model rather than your latest one. > Sure. That's often prudent. The latest version may not be debugged. It might fail unex

Re: [Vo]:Elforsk publish a "perspective" mini magazine, with E-cat among the stars

2013-10-24 Thread Alain Sepeda
another good reason not to show your latest model is - avoiding triggering fierce fear from competitors http://www.focus.it/fileflash/energia/fusioneFredda/FF_doc/2009-06-25_NASA-GRC-Millis_AnomalousHeatEffect.pdf ( extract is summarized there http://www.lenr-forum.com/showthread.php?804-Why-Reac

Re: [Vo]:Elforsk publish a "perspective" mini magazine, with E-cat among the stars

2013-10-25 Thread Alan Fletcher
From: "Alain Sepeda" Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 4:32:29 PM Gee .. a very bland summary on wiki lasted all of 2 minutes : In September 2013 the Swedish Electrical Utilities’ R & D Company Elforsk included in their "Perspectives" report a two-page section on [[Cold Fusion]], with partic

Re: [Vo]:Elforsk publish a "perspective" mini magazine, with E-cat among the stars

2013-10-26 Thread Jed Rothwell
Alan Fletcher wrote: > Gee .. a very bland summary on wiki lasted all of 2 minutes : > > In September 2013 the Swedish Electrical Utilities’ R & D Company Elforsk > . . . Do you mean you added this to the Wikipedia "cold fusion" article? And within 2 minutes someone erased it? They must have

Re: [Vo]:Elforsk publish a "perspective" mini magazine, with E-cat among the stars

2013-10-26 Thread Alain Sepeda
we should propose to the erased a contract: - if the LENR is proven you are fired or you let the data leak. normally he will wait to be fired because of Groupthink & collective Delusion. 2013/10/26 Jed Rothwell > Alan Fletcher wrote: > > >> Gee .. a very bland summary on wiki lasted all of

Re: [Vo]:Elforsk publish a "perspective" mini magazine, with E-cat among the stars

2013-10-26 Thread Alain Sepeda
more diplomatically I make a contribution. no edit... I keep the evidences (as pdf) http://www.lenr-forum.com/showthread.php?2481-Wikipedia-self-appointed-guardian-erased-Elforsk-article-in-2-minutes&p=5906#post5906 2013/10/26 Alain Sepeda > we should propose to the erased a contract: > - if