Re: [Vo]:Fresnel focused solar

2008-05-04 Thread Mike Carrell
The higher the concentration, the more accuracy required in the sun tracker. An eqitorial mount, where the rotation axis is parallel to the earth's axis at the installation location, is a good start. However, as the seasons progress, the sun's elevatiion changes, so the tracker must operated in

Re: [Vo]:Fresnel focused solar

2008-05-04 Thread R C Macaulay
Howdy Mike, This firm, Solargenix was owned by Duke Energy and now owned by a Spanish consortium. They are marketing their electric power producing system across the world and putting some very interesting contracts together. One of their secrets is keeping the cost of operations low.. that

[Vo]:Fresnel focused solar

2008-05-03 Thread Jones Beene
Looks like this company beat Michael Foster to market... http://www.sunrgi.com/ ... or not CAVEAT: an (open-minded but non-gullible) associate of mine, who follows this technology from silicon valley, in a phone call just now - says he is skeptical of this particular outfit- he stopped short of

Re: [Vo]:Fresnel focused solar

2008-05-03 Thread Mike Carrell
] To: vortex vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 12:08 PM Subject: [Vo]:Fresnel focused solar Looks like this company beat Michael Foster to market... http://www.sunrgi.com/ ... or not CAVEAT: an (open-minded but non-gullible) associate of mine, who follows this technology from silicon

Re: [Vo]:Fresnel focused solar

2008-05-03 Thread R C Macaulay
Howdy Jones, Looks like Sun-glitch has figured out a way to use seal beam headlamps for solar concentrators.. probably be lotsa old cars with empty tanks missing headlights it these guys can get off the ground. Vancouver has become the rival of Las Vegas for creating a whole new industry of

Re: [Vo]:Fresnel focused solar

2008-05-03 Thread Jones Beene
--- Mike Carrell wrote: Small problem: frenels make cheap concentrators, but then you need sun-tracking mounting, not shown, and that can be quite expensive. There is an added cost, of course, but supposedly there would also be a fast payback, especially in winter and especially for modular

Re: [Vo]:Fresnel focused solar

2008-05-03 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Sat, 3 May 2008 09:08:01 -0700 (PDT): Hi, [snip] Looks like this company beat Michael Foster to market... http://www.sunrgi.com/ [snip] Q10: Will this technology have an effect on the dependency that the U.S. has on foreign oil? A: Yes it will. Right now very

Re: [Vo]:Fresnel focused solar

2008-05-03 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Mike Carrell's message of Sat, 3 May 2008 13:03:03 -0400: Hi, [snip] Small problem: frenels make cheap concentrators, but then you need sun-tracking mounting, not shown, and that can be quite expensive. Non-focusing concentrators have been devised, but such are not shown. Mike

Re: [Vo]:Fresnel focused solar

2008-05-03 Thread Michael Foster
It's so much fun to hear all you folks speculate on what's happening in this particular field. First, no one or no company has beat me to the punch in using fresnel lenses to concentrate sunlight for a photovoltaic system. This is an old and obvious idea, newly revived because of the run up in

Re: [Vo]:Fresnel focused solar

2008-05-03 Thread Jones Beene
--- Michael, Hey, we kibitzers were merely waiting for you to focus some light on the subject, so to speak ... BTW- have you had a comparative look at what would be the optimum level of 'shrinkage' for the solar cell itself when under Fresnel concentration ? ... let me see if I can ask that