Re: [Vo]:How can we make sure that 1MW e-cat is true?

2011-07-19 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Akira ... > Perhaps the best way to make sure that the 1MW plant is true > would be to measure the output energy while the input is zero. > 1 MW of heat in such conditions would be quite hard to fake > (the test would have to run long enough, ie more than a few > seconds - possibly minutes

Re: [Vo]:How can we make sure that 1MW e-cat is true?

2011-07-19 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2011-07-18 06:04, Daniel Rocha wrote: How can we make sure that 1MW e-cat is true during a presentation? It is certainly not hard to emulate the e-cat performance at home with 600W, 1KW or maybe a laboratory with a 5KW source to heat water. But for a fake e-cat, it would be required 140KW to

Re: [Vo]:How can we make sure that 1MW e-cat is true?

2011-07-18 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 10:02 AM 7/18/2011, Alan J Fletcher wrote: [ I thought that Defkalion said they were taking orders for small Hyperions in November. ] Their products page says http://www.defkalion-energy.com/products The 1MW Hyperion will be inaugurated in Q4 of 2011 with its production phase to commence

Re: [Vo]:How can we make sure that 1MW e-cat is true?

2011-07-18 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 01:56 AM 7/18/2011, Damon Craig wrote: Yeap. This is what I expect transpire:-   A 1 MW unit will be qualified in the very same way the individual devices have been qualified: volumetric input of liquid water will be compared to electric power input.   It should be a marketing success. Andrea

Re: [Vo]:How can we make sure that 1MW e-cat is true?

2011-07-18 Thread Damon Craig
Yeap. This is what I expect transpire:- A 1 MW unit will be qualified in the very same way the individual devices have been qualified: volumetric input of liquid water will be compared to electric power input. It should be a marketing success. On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 9:04 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote

RE: [Vo]:How can we make sure that 1MW e-cat is true?

2011-07-17 Thread Mark Iverson
xplanation is if they're all in on the scam, and that just seems very unlikely... either way, not much longer to wait. -Mark _ From: Robert Leguillon [mailto:robert.leguil...@hotmail.com] Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 9:54 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:How can we m

RE: [Vo]:How can we make sure that 1MW e-cat is true?

2011-07-17 Thread Jouni Valkonen
1MW demoplant will produce ca. 414°C steam. It is completely irrelevant if it really works in scientific way or not, because it will be only a demonstration for journalists and politicians. If you want real proof, you can pay and preorder your own E-Cat and if you do not get what was promised, you

RE: [Vo]:How can we make sure that 1MW e-cat is true?

2011-07-17 Thread Robert Leguillon
em Rossi as simply one of many defensive inventors who lacks people skills. > Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 01:04:26 -0300 > From: danieldi...@gmail.com > To: vortex-l@eskimo.com > Subject: [Vo]:How can we make sure that 1MW e-cat is true? > > Dear people, > > How can we make sure

Re: [Vo]:How can we make sure that 1MW e-cat is true?

2011-07-17 Thread Daniel Rocha
I don't know if I wasn't clear or I am just not understanding you. I am not actually questioning if the whether the objections would apply or not but how we could objectively object by looking at videos or reproducing small demos. Even 140KW is a bit too much of steam or even heated water to make s

Re: [Vo]:How can we make sure that 1MW e-cat is true?

2011-07-17 Thread Joshua Cude
On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 11:04 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote: > Dear people, > > How can we make sure that 1MW e-cat is true during a presentation? That's a good question. Individual ecats have produced nothing but controversy. If the MW reactor is just multiple ecats, and they use the same sort of demo

[Vo]:How can we make sure that 1MW e-cat is true?

2011-07-17 Thread Daniel Rocha
Dear people, How can we make sure that 1MW e-cat is true during a presentation? It is certainly not hard to emulate the e-cat performance at home with 600W, 1KW or maybe a laboratory with a 5KW source to heat water. But for a fake e-cat, it would be required 140KW to 1MW to emulate the big e-cat.