Re: [Vo]:Hypothesis explaining FTL neutrinos

2011-10-07 Thread Mauro Lacy
On 10/04/2011 08:27 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: We don't allow faster than light neutrinos in here, says the bartender. A neutrino walks into a bar. It made its way to the news http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/gone-in-60-nanoseconds/2011/10/06/gIQAf1RERL_story.html Regards, Mauro

Re: [Vo]:Hypothesis explaining FTL neutrinos

2011-10-04 Thread Dr Josef Karthauser
On 25 Sep 2011, at 05:31, Axil Axil wrote: That is to say, neutrinos changing their flavor will go very fast (at warp speed) for a very short period of time during flavor change then once flavor change is complete, continue to move along indefinably at light speed. Hi Axil, I thought

Re: [Vo]:Hypothesis explaining FTL neutrinos

2011-10-04 Thread Terry Blanton
We don't allow faster than light neutrinos in here, says the bartender. A neutrino walks into a bar.

Re: [Vo]:Hypothesis explaining FTL neutrinos

2011-10-04 Thread Terry Blanton
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 7:27 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: We don't allow faster than light neutrinos in here, says the bartender. A neutrino walks into a bar. Tachey?

Re: [Vo]:Hypothesis explaining FTL neutrinos

2011-10-04 Thread Man on Bridges
Hi, :-)), good one. MoB

Re: [Vo]:Hypothesis explaining FTL neutrinos

2011-10-04 Thread Dr Joe Karthauser
Love it! :) -- Dr Joe Karthauser On 5 Oct 2011, at 00:27, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: We don't allow faster than light neutrinos in here, says the bartender. A neutrino walks into a bar.

Re: [Vo]:Hypothesis explaining FTL neutrinos

2011-09-25 Thread Axil Axil
From the CERN paper, all the neutrinos stated out as muon neutrinos and where received as muon neutrinos without flavor change to tau neutrinos. So no flavor changing occurred. The speed of the muon neutrinos was not a function of their energy either. These results rule out the MSW effect as a

Re: [Vo]:Hypothesis explaining FTL neutrinos

2011-09-25 Thread Mauro Lacy
On 09/24/2011 09:57 PM, Mauro Lacy wrote: On 09/24/2011 11:04 AM, Horace Heffner wrote: The New Scientist article, Dimension-hop may allow neutrinos to cheat light speed, here: http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn20957-dimensionhop-may-allow- neutrinos-to-cheat-light-speed.html suggest

Re: [Vo]:Hypothesis explaining FTL neutrinos

2011-09-25 Thread Jouni Valkonen
Maoro, i did propose that idea also here at Vortex, but it does not work and it cannot explain 7 km/s difference. We have measured that speed of light in vacuum is not depended on direction at least accuracy of ±0.1 m/s. I do not remember how accurately it was measured, but it was much more

Re: [Vo]:Hypothesis explaining FTL neutrinos

2011-09-25 Thread Mauro Lacy
On 09/25/2011 03:19 PM, Jouni Valkonen wrote: Maoro, i did propose that idea also here at Vortex, but it does not work and it cannot explain 7 km/s difference. We have measured that speed of light in vacuum is not depended on direction at least accuracy of ±0.1 m/s. I do not remember how

Re: [Vo]:Hypothesis explaining FTL neutrinos

2011-09-24 Thread Peter Heckert
Years ago there was a theory of Professor Günter Nimtz at university Kölln Germany. He had the theory (basing on experimental data) that Light has infinite speed inside Tunnel Effect regions. He made measurements and presented an Experiment where a Mozart Symphony was transmitted over short

Re: [Vo]:Hypothesis explaining FTL neutrinos

2011-09-24 Thread Jouni Valkonen
Horace, I was going to forward your message to another forum and put reference to mail-archive, but again your message did not make it into the archive. http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/ Perhaps, you should try http://goo.gl instead of tinyurl.com –Jouni 2011/9/24 Horace

[Vo]:Hypothesis explaining FTL neutrinos

2011-09-24 Thread Horace Heffner
The New Scientist article, Dimension-hop may allow neutrinos to cheat light speed, here: http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn20957-dimensionhop-may-allow- neutrinos-to-cheat-light-speed.html suggest dimension hops as the means for neutrinos traveling faster than light, as measured in

Re: [Vo]:Hypothesis explaining FTL neutrinos

2011-09-24 Thread Horace Heffner
On Sep 24, 2011, at 5:13 AM, Jouni Valkonen wrote: Horace, I was going to forward your message to another forum and put reference to mail-archive, but again your message did not make it into the archive. http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/ Perhaps, you should try http://goo.gl

Re: [Vo]:Hypothesis explaining FTL neutrinos

2011-09-24 Thread Horace Heffner
On Sep 24, 2011, at 1:08 AM, Peter Heckert wrote: Years ago there was a theory of Professor Günter Nimtz at university Kölln Germany. He had the theory (basing on experimental data) that Light has infinite speed inside Tunnel Effect regions. He made measurements and presented an Experiment

Re: [Vo]:Hypothesis explaining FTL neutrinos

2011-09-24 Thread Axil Axil
rom the experiment done back in 2008 as discussed in this article, quantum information can travel at speeds that exceed 100,000 times C (the speed of light in a vacuum). http://www.nature.com/news/2008/080813/full/news.2008.1038.html The concept of time may not necessary apply to quantum

Re: [Vo]:Hypothesis explaining FTL neutrinos

2011-09-24 Thread Mauro Lacy
On 09/24/2011 11:04 AM, Horace Heffner wrote: The New Scientist article, Dimension-hop may allow neutrinos to cheat light speed, here: http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn20957-dimensionhop-may-allow- neutrinos-to-cheat-light-speed.html suggest dimension hops as the means for neutrinos

Re: [Vo]:Hypothesis explaining FTL neutrinos

2011-09-24 Thread Axil Axil
The Mikheyev–Smirnov–Wolfenstein effect (often referred to as the matter effect) is a particle physics process which can act to modify neutrino oscillations in matter. The work by American physicist Lincoln Wolfenstein in 1978 and the work by Soviet physicists Stanislav Mikheyev and Alexei Smirnov

Re: [Vo]:Hypothesis explaining FTL neutrinos

2011-09-23 Thread Jouni Valkonen
2011/9/24 Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net: When tunneling occurs the wavefunction collapses, because the center of mass of the particle is suddenly changed. Its momentum and velocity remain in tact though, and its quantum wavefunction rebuilds with the new center of mass.  The neutrino