Re: [Vo]:Krivit's report and the unfortunate situation in Bologna

2011-06-18 Thread Jed Rothwell
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: > No, it makes good sense. This school of logic is thousands of years old > and has been carefully thought out. You should not assume that you know > better than philosophers and logicians. > > > True. > > And that's an appeal to authority, too, by the way... > It

Re: [Vo]:Krivit's report and the unfortunate situation in Bologna

2011-06-17 Thread Peter Gluck
Actually it is *postlogical thinking * http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com/2011/03/modes-of-thinking-my-taxonomy.html Galantini is a very local authorithy, and university professors are not necessarily experts in steam. Rossi is against the idea of measuring the ENTHALPY of steam,(as Jed also suggest

Re: [Vo]:Krivit's report and the unfortunate situation in Bologna

2011-06-17 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
On 11-06-17 09:31 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Stephen A. Lawrence mailto:sa...@pobox.com>> wrote: If that's not "appealing to an authority" then I don't know the meaning of simple English sentences. You do know the meaning of simple English sentences, but this meaning does not apply to

Re: [Vo]:Krivit's report and the unfortunate situation in Bologna

2011-06-17 Thread Jed Rothwell
Just to reiterate, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: > Rossi is citing actual, bona fide authorities in the relevant field such as >> Dr. Galantini. That is a legitimate thing to do ... >> > > Not with a complete lack of cited data, not in any scientific forum. Rossi made it very clear to me that th

Re: [Vo]:Krivit's report and the unfortunate situation in Bologna

2011-06-17 Thread Jed Rothwell
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: > If that's not "appealing to an authority" then I don't know the meaning of > simple English sentences. > You do know the meaning of simple English sentences, but this meaning does not apply to formal logic. Words and expressions in daily language often mean somethin

Re: [Vo]:Krivit's report and the unfortunate situation in Bologna

2011-06-17 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
On 11-06-17 06:51 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Someone here said that Rossi is offering "an appeal to authority." Strictly speaking, he is not. Yes, he is. His evidence that the steam is dry is "So-and-so says so." But no data is presented to back So-and-so's opinion; all we have is a bare co

[Vo]:Krivit's report and the unfortunate situation in Bologna

2011-06-17 Thread Jed Rothwell
As everyone here knows, Steve Krivit wrote a report about a visit to Rossi's factory in Bologna: http://blog.newenergytimes.com/2011/06/16/preliminary-report-of-interviews-with-e-cat-trio-rossi-focardi-and-levi/ On one hand, I thought this report was pretty good, but on the other hand I can well