Re: [Vo]:Marinov BB motor test problems

2009-08-12 Thread Horace Heffner
On Aug 4, 2009, at 8:49 AM, Harry Veeder wrote: - Original Message - From: Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2009 1:41 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:Marinov BB motor test problems [snip] The nichrome coil is a resistor being fed a large current. P = i^2 * R

Re: [Vo]:Marinov BB motor test problems

2009-08-05 Thread Kyle Mcallister
Horace, Just for the hell of it, I am making a new bearing motor out of automotive bearings, the old conical roller type used in the front wheels of rear-wheel-drive cars. It's almost done, but I unfortunately ran out of 5/16 nuts tonight, so cannot continue until tomorrow evening. Two

Re: [Vo]:Marinov BB motor test problems

2009-08-05 Thread Horace Heffner
Here are the results of measuring my current sense resistor, R1. Here's my measurement setup and results: ? ohms 48.3 ohms o--R1-o--R2--o 0V 21.7 mV16.68 V Total ohms 48.5 The 48.5 total ohms reading

Re: [Vo]:Marinov BB motor test problems

2009-08-05 Thread Horace Heffner
On Aug 5, 2009, at 5:58 PM, Kyle Mcallister wrote: Horace, Just for the hell of it, I am making a new bearing motor out of automotive bearings, the old conical roller type used in the front wheels of rear-wheel-drive cars. It's almost done, but I unfortunately ran out of 5/16 nuts

Re: [Vo]:Marinov BB motor test problems

2009-08-04 Thread Harry Veeder
- Original Message - From: Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2009 1:41 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:Marinov BB motor test problems On Aug 3, 2009, at 4:15 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: - Original Message - From: Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net

Re: [Vo]:Marinov BB motor test problems

2009-08-04 Thread Horace Heffner
Yes, that is exactly what I was wondering. So does the coil would heat up faster if the fly wheel is locked? harry For under $100 you can order the parts and find out for yourself. Best regards, Horace Heffner http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/

Re: [Vo]:Marinov BB motor test problems

2009-08-03 Thread Horace Heffner
On Aug 2, 2009, at 8:21 PM, Kyle Mcallister wrote: Keep us posted as to your results. Very interesting, to me at least. --Kyle Here's the full write-up updated through today's experiments: http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/HullMotor.pdf It has links to videos of the control (ordinary

Re: [Vo]:Marinov BB motor test problems

2009-08-03 Thread Horace Heffner
The following has been updated to improve construction information and to note a follow-up experiment using graphite powder lubrication in the stainless steel bearings: http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/HullMotor.pdf For convenience, the sections updated follow: Experiment Construction

Re: [Vo]:Marinov BB motor test problems

2009-08-03 Thread Harry Veeder
Great! now you should see if you are getting more (or less) power out than you put in to make the motor spin. harry - Original Message - From: Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net Date: Monday, August 3, 2009 7:23 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:Marinov BB motor test problems On Aug 2, 2009

Re: [Vo]:Marinov BB motor test problems

2009-08-03 Thread Horace Heffner
On Aug 3, 2009, at 11:35 AM, Harry Veeder wrote: Great! now you should see if you are getting more (or less) power out than you put in to make the motor spin. harry Actually, that sounds like a better project for you! 8^) It can't be even close, as far as mechanical energy. The input is

Re: [Vo]:Marinov BB motor test problems

2009-08-03 Thread Harry Veeder
- Original Message - From: Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net Date: Monday, August 3, 2009 4:48 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Marinov BB motor test problems On Aug 3, 2009, at 11:35 AM, Harry Veeder wrote: Great! now you should see if you are getting more (or less) power out than

[Vo]:Marinov BB motor test problems

2009-07-30 Thread Horace Heffner
I've appended new versions of Fig. 3 and Fig. 4 to: http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/HullMotor.pdf I think these figures are the main problem with my communicating the hysteresis explanation for the Marinov Ball Bearing Motor. I also included in the above two photos of an experiment under

Re: [Vo]:Marinov BB motor test problems

2009-07-30 Thread Horace Heffner
I wrote: I expect to try a powdered graphite lubricant to encourage better contact and hopefully to avoid welding. I wrote: I expect to try a powdered graphite lubricant to attempt better steel-steel electrical contact and yet hopefully avoid welding. I don't normally talk to motors,

Re: [Vo]:Marinov BB motor test problems

2009-07-30 Thread Kyle Mcallister
--- On Thu, 7/30/09, Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net wrote: Some of the youtube experiment videos show motors that seem to run well with low current. I would not have expected the contact to be so poor.  Maybe it *is* indeed poor and that is key to getting enough torque.  The fact

Re: [Vo]:Marinov BB motor test problems

2009-07-30 Thread Horace Heffner
On Jul 30, 2009, at 5:57 PM, Kyle Mcallister wrote: --- On Thu, 7/30/09, Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net wrote: Some of the youtube experiment videos show motors that seem to run well with low current. I would not have expected the contact to be so poor. Maybe it *is* indeed poor and