Daniel, I apologize. As I wrote the message, your contribution was
indented. That was somehow lost. Looking carefully, I see that the
quotation marker is missing from your intented material in my
original copy, and then the indent itself disappears from what
appeared in Vortex. I'm not sure I
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote:
He also put himself front and center in someone else's obituary, which is
bad form.
I don't see Krivits action there as fairly characterized as attempting to
promote WL theory.
Hey, I was just making a minor kvetch! Overall it was a nice
The exact quote from Beaudette at 40:50 into the mp3 recording linked below:
If Pons and Fleischmann would be so cooperative today as to conveniently
die, tomorrow, I suspect, the most prominent critics would say, 'Well,
maybe its time now to give the field a second look.'
On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at
On 2012-08-04 22:36, Daniel Rocha wrote:
http://blog.newenergytimes.com/2012/08/04/fleischmann-dead-at-85-end-of-an-era/
Here's an article from The Salt Lake Tribune:
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/54640856-78/fleischmann-fusion-cold-pons.html.csp
Cheers,
S.A.
Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com wrote:
Here's an article from The Salt Lake Tribune:
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/**news/54640856-78/fleischmann-**
fusion-cold-pons.html.csphttp://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/54640856-78/fleischmann-fusion-cold-pons.html.csp
Yikes. That one is
Randy Wuller rwul...@freeark.com wrote:
Krivit makes you more than stop and think. A decent person would not use
the death of another to further themselves. Krivit is not a decent person.
Martin Fleishmann deserves better.
Oh, heck, it's nothing.
Krivit has done some things in the past
http://www.forbes.com/sites/markgibbs/2012/08/04/the-state-of-the-cold-fusion-market/
Many have argued that the discrediting of Fleischmann and Pons was
driven and used by others in the science world to further their own
careers and to promote “big science” experiments with “hot fusion.”
Who
Re-read that sentence ... carefully, this time.
[Mark Gibbs]
On Sunday, August 5, 2012, Terry Blanton wrote:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/markgibbs/2012/08/04/the-state-of-the-cold-fusion-market/
Many have argued that the discrediting of Fleischmann and Pons was
driven and used by others in
I agree with Mark on this one and credit him with a more balanced summary
of the state of things this go around
On Sunday, August 5, 2012, Terry Blanton wrote:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/markgibbs/2012/08/04/the-state-of-the-cold-fusion-market/
Many have argued that the discrediting of
Le Aug 5, 2012 à 12:21 PM, Mark Gibbs mgi...@gibbs.com a écrit :
Re-read that sentence ... carefully, this time.
[Mark Gibbs]
Hi Mark,
Good to see you on this list. Your articles have been the subject of several
extended threads and of no small amount of controversy. But I think people
Thanks for the welcome. Comments inline ...
[mg]
On Sunday, August 5, 2012, Eric Walker wrote:
Le Aug 5, 2012 à 12:21 PM, Mark Gibbs mgi...@gibbs.com javascript:; a
écrit :
Re-read that sentence ... carefully, this time.
[Mark Gibbs]
Hi Mark,
Good to see you on this list. Your
This is something hard to swallow for most CF researches because it would
generate radioactive leftovers, mostly. All attempts that I takes more
seriously are the ones that deal only with D/H fusion as due some sort of
recoil effect from the lattice, concentrated in a few, like 2 up to 4, of
the
On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 3:21 PM, Mark Gibbs mgi...@gibbs.com wrote:
Re-read that sentence ... carefully, this time.
Ah, the antecedent was others. Man, that was quick. You must come
here a lot.
T
At 04:25 PM 8/4/2012, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Daniel Rocha mailto:danieldi...@gmail.comdanieldi...@gmail.com wrote:
I just noticed that Krivit used his death to promote WL theory...
He also put himself front and center in someone
else's obituary, which is bad form.
I'm going to disagree. If
From: Mark Gibbs mgi...@gibbs.com
Sent: Sunday, August 5, 2012 1:25:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Obituary: Fleischmann, 85
Thanks for the Obit ... at present the ONLY main-stream media mention.
Also picked up by the Chicago Tribune.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/technology/nsc
I wrote:
Marianne and Mike saw him this spring.
Correction: this winter.
- Jed
Abd, I didn`t complain about the format. That was Jed`s part. I don`t know
why his comment is doing beside mine in your quote.
2012/8/5 Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com
At 04:25 PM 8/4/2012, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Daniel Rocha mailto:danieldi...@gmail.com**danieldi...@gmail.com
wrote:
I confirm that Martin died yesterday.
Marianne and Mike saw him this spring. He was still responsive and enjoying
life. So that is a blessing.
- Jed
I just noticed that Krivit used his death to promote WL theory...
2012/8/4 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
I confirm that Martin died yesterday.
Marianne and Mike saw him this spring. He was still responsive and
enjoying life. So that is a blessing.
- Jed
--
Daniel Rocha - RJ
in the world.
Now, thinking back, that moment may have been the catalyst that ignited my
lifelong pursuit of the study of materials chemistry.
Thank you Dr. Fleischmann. I promise your dreams and spirit will live on.
Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 17:02:31 -0400
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Obituary: Fleischmann, 85
From
Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote:
I just noticed that Krivit used his death to promote WL theory...
He also put himself front and center in someone else's obituary, which is
bad form.
I suppose a person does not get to write his own obituary, so Steve took
this opportunity to feature
I wrote:
Since I will not be around to write my own obituary, let me take a crack
at it here:
Jed Rothwell died [a long time from now I hope]
Rothwell was inordinately fond of cherries.
Ahem . . . I am in the habit of making jokes in times of stress, and at
funerals. Especially at
From Jed
Ahem . . . I am in the habit of making jokes in times of
stress, and at funerals. Especially at wakes. It is a
British tradition, as it happens. Chris Tinsley's wake,
immediately following the funeral, was one of most
riotous parties I have ever attended.
I am sorry if
I'd be ok (as it would matter...) if people used my organs to play sports
or give it to vultures and forget me forever.
--
Daniel Rocha - RJ
danieldi...@gmail.com
@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2012 5:02 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Obituary: Fleischmann, 85
I confirm that Martin died yesterday.
Marianne and Mike saw him this spring. He was still responsive and enjoying
life. So that is a blessing.
- Jed
would you mind if I stuck a cross in the Vulture's poop?
harry
On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 6:10 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote:
I'd be ok (as it would matter...) if people used my organs to play sports or
give it to vultures and forget me forever.
--
Daniel Rocha - RJ
Sure! But, please, not in his da poo poo!
2012/8/4 Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com
would you mind if I stuck a cross in the Vulture's poop?
harry
On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 6:10 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com
wrote:
I'd be ok (as it would matter...) if people used my organs to play
Feeling sad, and angry.
Sad for the obvious reasons.
Angry at the scientists and journalists that treated FP, and the entire
field, so disgracefully and unscientifically. They should be held
responsible for the 23 years of delay; they should have known better. I
hope karma comes back to
From Mark,
I hope karma comes back to bite them where it counts.
... reincarnated as teapots. Powered by... well, you know. ;-)
Regards,
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net wrote:
Jed, I suspect you may have a few worth revealing.
I am kind of busy getting ready for ICCF17. (I wish I could make it Austin
next week.) Christy Frazier, Marianne Macy and I are working on an obituary
which will be published
I think Martin would have appreciated the humor, Jed.
Lawry
On Aug 4, 2012, at 5:35 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
I wrote:
Since I will not be around to write my own obituary, let me take a crack at
it here:
Jed Rothwell died [a long time from now I hope]
Rothwell was inordinately
Ed Storms hit the nail on the head in his comment I copied here.
- Jed
Charles Beaudette, in his MIT
lecturehttp://www.newenergytimes.com/v2/views/Group1/Beaudette-LincolnLab.shtmlquipped
that if Fleischmann and Pons would have the good manners (not sure
the exact wording) to die, cold fusion research could become respectable.
Note, I am not suggesting that anyone
his tradition
will guide us in our endeavors.
We are forever grateful for a job well done.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sat, Aug 4, 2012 7:20 pm
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Obituary: Fleischmann, 85
Feeling sad
OMG Steven... you hit a home run...
That's hilarious! Literally LoL
-mi
-Original Message-
From: OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson [mailto:orionwo...@charter.net]
Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2012 4:29 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Obituary: Fleischmann, 85
From Mark
Dr. Fleischmann had the pleasure of being one of the first two people
who were certain that low energy nuclear reactions truly exist. He
surely knew that, one day, his discovery would create a better world.
I hope that gave him sufficient reward.
History will remember him so.
T
Jed:
Krivit makes you more than stop and think. A decent person would not use the
death of another to further themselves. Krivit is not a decent person. Martin
Fleishmann deserves better. Personally, regardless of the nature of the
phenomena, I hope it is always termed Cold Fusion in honor
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