Re: [Vo]:Pickens wrong about trucks

2009-02-01 Thread R C Macaulay
Howdy Kyle, Yep!, you been a mechanic. The US auto industry basked in their glory days after WW2 and by 1950 had performed the miracle of reverse engineering from a fair to middlin' 1940 model into a 1950 disaster that did not recover until the Japanese stumbled across the "how to" book written

Re: [Vo]:Pickens wrong about trucks

2009-02-01 Thread Kyle Mcallister
--- thomas malloy wrote: > If I were appointed the car czar, I would require > the vehicle's design > to be reviewed by a panel of mechanics. That's a bloody good idea, speaking from a mechanic's point of view. The trash being sold for $20k+ these days is absolutely pathetic compared to what

Re: [Vo]:Pickens wrong about trucks

2009-01-31 Thread thomas malloy
Jed Rothwell wrote: Pickens also wants to run cars on compressed gas which I think is a waste of money. We should make all cars into plug-in hybrids or pure electric vehicles (for short ranges), run them on electricity most of the time and use the If I were appointed the car czar, I would

Re: [Vo]:Pickens wrong about trucks

2009-01-30 Thread Horace Heffner
On Jan 29, 2009, at 5:27 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:38:49 -0900: Hi, [snip] The reason Si is such a great element for energy transportation and storage is, if you look at energy production on a global basis, there is so much of

[Vo]:Pickens wrong about trucks

2009-01-30 Thread Taylor J. Smith
Robin van Spaandonk wrote: IMO the problem isn't that people have a death wish, but rather that they have so little imagination that they don't understand/believe what's going to happen, until it does, and even if they do believe it, they think it will happen to someone else, not to them. Some a

Re: [Vo]:Pickens wrong about trucks

2009-01-29 Thread mixent
In reply to R C Macaulay's message of Thu, 29 Jan 2009 20:48:11 -0600: Hi, [snip] >Sat on a state long range water planning board ten years back and mentioned >that we would see the day come when a home wouldn't have a sewer line >exiting the property and only use a small amount of piped in wate

Re: [Vo]:Pickens wrong about trucks

2009-01-29 Thread R C Macaulay
T-Bone did succeed in getting some discussion going on transportation fuels and a mention of wind energy. Using an alternate to diesel for heavy trucking is too much a stretch. Back in another life, the trucking industry replaced gasoline engines with diesel engines.. Cummins Diesel engines bein

Re: [Vo]:Pickens wrong about trucks

2009-01-29 Thread mixent
In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:38:49 -0900: Hi, [snip] >The reason Si is such a great element for energy transportation and >storage is, if you look at energy production on a global basis, there >is so much of it cheaply available in desert areas, where the solar

Re: [Vo]:Pickens wrong about trucks

2009-01-29 Thread Horace Heffner
On Jan 29, 2009, at 11:40 AM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: It might be simpler to react the SiHx with water first to produce SiO2 (precipitate), and Hydrogen gas. Then burn the Hydrogen in the engine, and avoid the issue altogether. The SiO2 would collect in the mixing tank and thus be easily

Re: [Vo]:Pickens wrong about trucks

2009-01-29 Thread Jones Beene
Hey T-Bone - you didn't ask, but let me tell you a deep secret Assuming that there are no better alternatives than combustion - and hopefully there will be - then why not convert methane into heavy alcohols first, using coal as the predominant carbon source?(and end up with an ideal auto fu

Re: [Vo]:Pickens wrong about trucks

2009-01-29 Thread mixent
In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Thu, 29 Jan 2009 10:55:41 -0900: Hi, [snip] >Note that I said: "I think this kind of fuel might best be used in >external combustion engines, which are also easily made multi-fuel, >even solid fueled." One reason this is important is that silicon can

Re: [Vo]:Pickens wrong about trucks

2009-01-29 Thread Horace Heffner
On Jan 29, 2009, at 9:50 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Horace Heffner wrote: One of the products of tetrasilane combustion, SiO2, is a solid and is valuable for many things, including the making of solar cells. If I'm not mistaken, its common name is quartz, AKA "glass" (but without t

Re: [Vo]:Pickens wrong about trucks

2009-01-29 Thread Terry Blanton
I meant Ethanol. Methanol is close to 2.0 On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Terry Blanton wrote: > Agreed since the LNG gasoline equivalent energy is similar to Methanol (~1.5). > > Terry > > On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Horace Heffner > wrote: >> I wrote: "I think an LNG trucking fleet i

Re: [Vo]:Pickens wrong about trucks

2009-01-29 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Horace Heffner wrote: > One of the products > of tetrasilane combustion, SiO2, is a solid and is valuable for many > things, including the making of solar cells. If I'm not mistaken, its common name is quartz, AKA "glass" (but without the impurities). Presumably the stuff comes out of the comb

Re: [Vo]:Pickens wrong about trucks

2009-01-29 Thread Jed Rothwell
Horace Heffner wrote: You must be thinking of heavies like propane. Sorry. I meant LPG (Liquefied Petroleum Gas). "Gas consisting primarily of propane, propylene, butane, and butylene in various mixtures. Stored as a liquid by increasing pressure." - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Pickens wrong about trucks

2009-01-29 Thread Terry Blanton
Agreed since the LNG gasoline equivalent energy is similar to Methanol (~1.5). Terry On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Horace Heffner wrote: > I wrote: "I think an LNG trucking fleet is very feasible ...". > > That should have said: "I think a long haul LNG fueled trucking fleet is > very feasib

Re: [Vo]:Pickens wrong about trucks

2009-01-29 Thread Horace Heffner
I wrote: "I think an LNG trucking fleet is very feasible ...". That should have said: "I think a long haul LNG fueled trucking fleet is very feasible ...". Best regards, Horace Heffner http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/

Re: [Vo]:Pickens wrong about trucks

2009-01-29 Thread Horace Heffner
On Jan 27, 2009, at 9:57 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: By the way, LNG powered automobiles are common in Japan, especially taxies. LNG is liquid at room temperature. - Jed You must be thinking of heavies like propane. Even at 3000 psi natural gas is not a liquid at room temperature. See: ht

Re: [Vo]:Pickens wrong about trucks

2009-01-27 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene wrote: #7 in the "Absolute Worst Predictions of 2008": "I think you'll see (oil prices at) $150 a barrel by the end of the year" -- T. Boone Pickens, June 20, 2008 I believe the price of oil plummeted because of the economic crisis, and I do not think anyone predicted a crisis o

Re: [Vo]:Pickens wrong about trucks

2009-01-27 Thread R C Macaulay
Howdy Jed, Better known in Texas as T-Bone Pickens, He is the personification of the Texas Oilman with a history to match. Owns Mesa Petroleum and Mesa Water.. He taught Phillips Petro and several others the fine art of the "deal" while taking their britches. However, he has stirred the pot and

Re: [Vo]:Pickens wrong about trucks

2009-01-27 Thread Jones Beene
#7 in the "Absolute Worst Predictions of 2008": "I think you'll see (oil prices at) $150 a barrel by the end of the year" -- T. Boone Pickens, June 20, 2008 Oil was then around $135 a barrel. By late December it was below $40. My comment: This does not in any way prove that the price of o

[Vo]:Pickens wrong about trucks

2009-01-27 Thread Jed Rothwell
This fellow T. Boone Pickens has a wonderful name but he has been making some technical errors which detract from his claims. One thing he has said which makes no sense to me is that large trucks cannot be made into hybrids. Coca-Cola just announced that they have converted 327 of their large d