Re: [Vo]:Politicians beginning to count on "clean energy" for job creation

2016-03-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
Eric Walker wrote: > Jobs will be more esoteric, i.e. >> keeping an "eye" on things, deciding on the direction that development >> should >> take etc. In short providing a human perspective. >> > > Assuming the robots find our perspective to be a valuable and useful one.

Re: [Vo]:Politicians beginning to count on "clean energy" for job creation

2016-03-11 Thread Eric Walker
On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 6:48 PM, wrote: Jobs will be more esoteric, i.e. > keeping an "eye" on things, deciding on the direction that development > should > take etc. In short providing a human perspective. > Assuming the robots find our perspective to be a valuable and

Re: [Vo]:Politicians beginning to count on "clean energy" for job creation

2016-03-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
wrote: > They will not require more materials than, say, the turbine, > >fuel tank, fuel regulator and ignition system in today's gas fired > >generator. They will not be more expensive. > > True, but where today such generators are a "minor" item, CF generators > will be >

Re: [Vo]:Politicians beginning to count on "clean energy" for job creation

2016-03-11 Thread mixent
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Fri, 11 Mar 2016 20:00:40 -0500: Hi, [snip] > wrote: > >The point is that they will need to be manufactured at all, where today >> they are >> not. > > >They what? I have lost track of what you mean. Do you mean cold fusion >cells? They

Re: [Vo]:Politicians beginning to count on "clean energy" for job creation

2016-03-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
wrote: The point is that they will need to be manufactured at all, where today > they are > not. They what? I have lost track of what you mean. Do you mean cold fusion cells? They will integrated into generators, the way a combustion heat engine is now. They will not

Re: [Vo]:Politicians beginning to count on "clean energy" for job creation

2016-03-11 Thread mixent
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Fri, 11 Mar 2016 17:57:32 -0500: Hi, [snip] >Axil Axil wrote: > > >> Most E-Cat reactors will be produced using robots. >> > >Perhaps E-Cat reactors lend themselves to being produced by robots more >than, say, today's wind turbines do. In

Re: [Vo]:Politicians beginning to count on "clean energy" for job creation

2016-03-11 Thread mixent
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Fri, 11 Mar 2016 17:29:25 -0500: Hi, [snip] >I am afraid that analysis is incorrect. Manufacturing a cold fusion >generator will not require more labor or materials than manufacturing >something like a gas fired conventional electric generator. Manufacturing

Re: [Vo]:Politicians beginning to count on "clean energy" for job creation

2016-03-11 Thread Lennart Thornros
Jed, we have a certain amount of resources when it comes to the work force. Factors like how long work days shall we have, time lag between that the educational system can produce useful skills and when it could have been used and many other things will determine how much over capacity

Re: [Vo]:Politicians beginning to count on "clean energy" for job creation

2016-03-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
Axil Axil wrote: > Most E-Cat reactors will be produced using robots. > Perhaps E-Cat reactors lend themselves to being produced by robots more than, say, today's wind turbines do. In that case, E-Cat reactors will reduce employment both in the manufacturing stage and also

Re: [Vo]:Politicians beginning to count on "clean energy" for job creation

2016-03-11 Thread Axil Axil
The QuarkX will produce electricity. Heat production will minimized and be a waste product. The QuarkX will be produced in a similar way as a ITEL processor chip. Most E-Cat reactors will be produced using robots. On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 5:29 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: >

Re: [Vo]:Politicians beginning to count on "clean energy" for job creation

2016-03-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
wrote: > It will take only a few thousand people to implement. Most of them > >will be researchers, who are seldom paid much money. Cold fusion will wipe > >out an entire sector of the economy. Whether it will add new sectors > >remains to be seen. > > Someone has to work in

Re: [Vo]:Politicians beginning to count on "clean energy" for job creation

2016-03-11 Thread mixent
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Wed, 9 Mar 2016 10:23:08 -0500: Hi, [snip] >From our point of view, the problem with this is that cold fusion will not >be labor-intensive. On the contrary, it will wipe out all jobs related to >energy. It will take only a few thousand people to implement.

Re: [Vo]:Politicians beginning to count on "clean energy" for job creation

2016-03-10 Thread Alain Sepeda
note that Russia, and especially Putin have an agenda to reduce dependency of Russian economy to oil. Ther was some success, ane recent embargo did much to help, but this is still very insufficient. Oil rent is a trap, anyone with some vision of history know that it is a cursed resource, far more

Re: [Vo]:Politicians beginning to count on "clean energy" for job creation

2016-03-09 Thread Lennart Thornros
Jed, Why do you think it is OK that people in Russia and Saudi loses job. I could accept your idea 100 years ago as an egoistical stance. Today it does not even have that excuse. We live in an interconnected world. Now I think there will be transfer of work due to introduction of LENR. Reality is

[Vo]:Politicians beginning to count on "clean energy" for job creation

2016-03-09 Thread Jed Rothwell
Not to introduce politics but . . . A Clinton campaign spokesperson is quoted in the news today: "We think that she came into Michigan with a very strong economic agenda and message about how she would create jobs and put manufacturing sector around clean energy . . ." I think people in both