On Aug 1, 2008, at 2:28 PM, Michel Jullian wrote:
A very good point!
Making the efficiency rise from 65% to almost 100% as calculated by
Horace is also a very important progress, if confirmed. It would
make it possible to consider a "water battery" consisting in an
electrolysis cell plus
appened to also be very efficient (which I don't
know)
Michel
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From: "Robin van Spaandonk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Vortex-L"
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 11:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: Major electrolysis development
...
BTW this may als
On Jul 31, 2008, at 12:06 PM, Jones Beene wrote:
...they do
not even understand the difference between Redox
half-cell reactions, and why two half-cells do not
imply a workable whole-cell - not to mention: what
really constitutes a breakthrough.
... we already possess an efficient way to get ox
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 08:49:53PM +0100, Nick Palmer wrote:
> "The hard part of getting water to split is not the hydrogen -- platinum
> as a catalyst works fine for the hydrogen. But platinum works very poorly
> for oxygen, making you use much more energy," said MIT chemistry
> professor Danie
Horace Heffner wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/6d2x23
h
Thanks for an interesting link Horace.
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Jones, you sharp eyed cuss,
Richard
Jones wrote,
and we can already do everything stated
at decent efficiency with added current, and they
cannot promise very more efficiency not lower cost, so
where is the beef, really?
- but less we forget ... the scientists involved in
this say they expect
In reply to Nick Palmer's message of Thu, 31 Jul 2008 20:58:44 +0100:
Hi,
[snip]
>Meanwhile, the protons in solution are carried by
>phosphate anions to a conventional platinum cathode where they gain
>electrons to form hydrogen.
[snip]
If only the cathode is platinum, then I see no reason why i
Hello. Is this NSF guy (or the writer of the article)
a total nut case, or did I get out of bed on the wrong
side:
"The simplicity of this process is amazing," Luis
Echegoyen, director of the National Science
Foundation's chemistry division, said in a statement.
"Using common and affordable elemen
This from the Royal Society of Chemistry website gives the most detailed
info I've seen so far
http://www.rsc.org/chemistryworld/News/2008/July/31070802.asp
Breakthrough catalyst for splitting water
31 July 2008
US scientists say they have solved a fundamental problem hampering renewable
en
"The hard part of getting water to split is not the hydrogen -- platinum as
a catalyst works fine for the hydrogen. But platinum works very poorly for
oxygen, making you use much more energy," said MIT chemistry professor
Daniel Nocera. "What we have done is made a catalyst work for the oxygen
http://news.google.com/?ned=us&ncl=1232029265
Best regards,
Horace Heffner
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/
http://tinyurl.com/6d2x23
http://www.bostonherald.com/business/general/view.bg?articleid=1110286
Best regards,
Horace Heffner
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/
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