On Jul 3, 2007, at 8:54 PM, Robin van Spaandonk wrote:
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Mon, 02 Jul 2007 09:40:41 -0700:
Hi,
[snip]
Good points made by Michel and Horace, as I was heavily influenced in
this thought (at the time I read the Paynter paper) by the Graneau
work.
IMO, it's
I wrote: I wish I could take credit for being right (it certainly
seldom happens at home here!) 8^) However, when it comes to the
Graneaus I really just don't understand how their theories work. I
also haven't gone to the expense of buying their books or papers, so
the blame lays
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Mon, 02 Jul 2007 09:40:41 -0700:
Hi,
[snip]
Good points made by Michel and Horace, as I was heavily influenced in
this thought (at the time I read the Paynter paper) by the Graneau work.
Even now, I am not sure whether their assertion is wrong or right, but
Free energy schemes are a dime a dozen these days
Here's my 2 cents worth for near-Independence-Day (energy independence).
Perhaps someone can raise the ante to a dime.
The water dimer consists of two water molecules loosely bound by a
hydrogen bond. It is the smallest water cluster
On Jul 2, 2007, at 7:30 AM, Jones Beene wrote:
The bond does have net extractable energy which can be replenished
easily by exposure to sunlight.
In fact - it would seem from the experiments, that by just breaking
this bond in humid air, as much as 4,000 cal/mol of energy is
released.
but we don't really know to what extent, they
haven't delivered yet.
Michel
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From: Jones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 5:30 PM
Subject: [Vo]:The H2O Dimer
Free energy schemes are a dime a dozen these days
Good points made by Michel and Horace, as I was heavily influenced in
this thought (at the time I read the Paynter paper) by the Graneau work.
Even now, I am not sure whether their assertion is wrong or right, but
the same general idea of the bond formation process absorbing energy is
also
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