Re: [Vo]:The so-called "secret new weapon"

2020-09-17 Thread Jürg Wyttenbach
Hi Robin, I usually use projections to 3D space to compare the radius. But in calculations you have to be aware of the diverse factors given by the torus metric and SO(4) metric. So the correct question is: Which radius must be used for what calculation. Comparing is just a curiosity! Some

Re: [Vo]:The so-called "secret new weapon"

2020-09-17 Thread Robin
In reply to Jürg Wyttenbach's message of Thu, 17 Sep 2020 23:22:05 +0200: Hi Jürg, If you are talking about a torus, then it would help if you make a distinction between major and minor radius. >Things are tricky: > >A torus diameter is 4R ! But the torus radius is only R! So its a matter >of

Re: [Vo]:The so-called "secret new weapon"

2020-09-17 Thread Jürg Wyttenbach
Things are tricky: A torus diameter is 4R ! But the torus radius is only R! So its a matter of perspective. If you look at the same distance circle radius "torus 2 radii" then the 4D radius - seen in 3D -  is longer! J.W. On 17.09.2020 23:15, Robin wrote: In reply to Jürg Wyttenbach's me

Re: [Vo]:The so-called "secret new weapon"

2020-09-17 Thread Robin
In reply to Jürg Wyttenbach's message of Thu, 17 Sep 2020 22:04:39 +0200: Hi, >You can look up SO(4) in Wikipedia > >The group measure is 2^1/2. This is the length of the unit radius of the >Clifford torus (formed by the tangent space). To get the standard norm >(=1) you have to divide by 2^1/2

Re: [Vo]:The so-called "secret new weapon"

2020-09-17 Thread Jürg Wyttenbach
You can look up SO(4) in Wikipedia The group measure is 2^1/2. This is the length of the unit radius of the Clifford torus (formed by the tangent space). To get the standard norm (=1) you have to divide by 2^1/2! Or more simple. The radius for the standard circle is 1, but the Clifford torus

Re: [Vo]:The so-called "secret new weapon"

2020-09-17 Thread Robin
In reply to Jürg Wyttenbach's message of Thu, 17 Sep 2020 11:54:01 +0200: Hi Jürg, Your theory is already difficult enough for us uncomplicated folk to understand. It would perhaps help if you didn't use shorthand. IOW please be very clear and precise, and don't leave any steps out. I realize t

Re: [Vo]:The so-called "secret new weapon"

2020-09-17 Thread Jürg Wyttenbach
Quite correct: 1/2 is missing. The SO(4) radius is 1/2 of the measured one but gets enlarged by the metric. So for the proton R_4D = 1/2 R_p *(2^1/2 ). This is the real radius from the center of action/rotation! J.W. On 16.09.2020 22:35, Robin wrote: In reply to Jürg Wyttenbach's message o

Re: [Vo]:The so-called "secret new weapon"

2020-09-16 Thread Robin
In reply to Jürg Wyttenbach's message of Wed, 16 Sep 2020 13:35:46 +0200: Hi, [snip] >If the electrons are shrunken, then they may well tunnel along with the >protons, > > >To fully understand physics you must model all particles as EM mass - >the exact opposite of what standard model does. > >A

Re: [Vo]:The so-called "secret new weapon"

2020-09-16 Thread Jürg Wyttenbach
If the electrons are shrunken, then they may well tunnel along with the protons, To fully understand physics you must model all particles as EM mass - the exact opposite of what standard model does. An electron always attaches as magnetic flux at the proper resonant point. The error already

Re: [Vo]:The so-called "secret new weapon"

2020-09-15 Thread Robin
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Wed, 16 Sep 2020 00:51:24 + (UTC): Hi, [snip] If the electrons are shrunken, then they may well tunnel along with the protons, making an enhanced electron capture process possible. A possibility which you may recall I first posted here in the thread "Miz

Re: [Vo]:The so-called "secret new weapon"

2020-09-15 Thread Jones Beene
Think about the implications of dense hydrogen in the role of binding and reacting with another (larger) nucleus as if were two neutrons. This is completely new physics. Such a discovery would open an entirely new world of overlooked nuclear reactions which were never given much hope before. It

Re: [Vo]:The so-called "secret new weapon"

2020-09-15 Thread Jones Beene
Well, you could be getting inferior advice. It makes little sense to worry about IH or anyone else when a trip to Stockholm (for the big prize) is waiting for positive results showing H*-H* absorption... No one is going to get rich on this anyway, other than patent attorneys and Wall Street. T

Re: [Vo]:The so-called "secret new weapon"

2020-09-15 Thread Jürg Wyttenbach
We do currently not publish the spectra as there are to many patent trolls like IH just waiting for it... But I have tons of files with interesting details. Anybody serious that is willing to support us either by labor or some significant financial support will get access to our knowledge. F

Re: [Vo]:The so-called "secret new weapon"

2020-09-15 Thread Jones Beene
Jürg Wyttenbach wrote: > What we see in experiments is that H*-H* reacts like two neutrons. This in > respect to the intermediate products we see. Are any of these experiments published ? Absorption of 2 neutrons when proved would be absolutely huge in importance, since AFAIK this does n

Re: [Vo]:The so-called "secret new weapon"

2020-09-15 Thread Jürg Wyttenbach
What we see in experiments is that H*-H* reacts like two neutrons. This in respect to the intermediate products we see. On the other side D*-D* reacts like two protons! J.W. On 14.09.2020 15:12, JonesBeene wrote: Jürg Wyttenbach wrote: … Dense Hydrogen. aka "Hydrino", aka H*-H* is a we

RE: [Vo]:The so-called "secret new weapon"

2020-09-14 Thread JonesBeene
Jürg Wyttenbach wrote: … Dense Hydrogen. aka "Hydrino", aka H*-H* is a weak nuclear bond between two protons. It can be exactly calculated by SO(4) physics and is in full agreement with Randall Mills measurement of so called 1/4 Hydrinos Jürg The H*H* which you describe above would seem to be

Re: [Vo]:The so-called "secret new weapon"

2020-09-12 Thread Axil Axil
One of the major issues interfering with the commercializing the LENR reaction is the erosion of the structure of the reactor caused by the active agent. Let's call that active agent the EVO, a particle unique to the LENR reaction.. This video shows this EVO erosion caused by the exposure of a bra

Re: [Vo]:The so-called "secret new weapon"

2020-09-12 Thread Jürg Wyttenbach
The Widom Larsen model is not even a model just and idea and form the standpoint of physics its nonsensical. Nobody no where ever has seen neutrons in LENR... Dense Hydrogen. aka "Hydrino", aka H*-H* (how we call it) is a weak nuclear bond between two protons. It can be exactly calculated by S

[Vo]:The so-called "secret new weapon"

2020-09-12 Thread Jones Beene
For those who have not connected the dots (in the last few days) and have too much time on their hands, the silly season of election year politics is now focusing on a "secret" new weapon. Not sure if any pundit has mentioned that over two years ago Lewis Larsen et al was suggesting exactly th