Re: [Vo]:There are two heat exchangers

2011-10-08 Thread Rich Murray
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[Vo]:There are two heat exchangers

2011-10-07 Thread Jed Rothwell
Alan J Fletcher wrote: The radio24 pics show the heat exchanger outside. The corrugated section inside the eCat is part of its internal core-to-steam heat exchanger. I don't get it. Please explain. Are there two heat exchangers? One to condense the steam maybe?? I thought that's what the

Re: [Vo]:There are two heat exchangers

2011-10-07 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 07.10.2011 22:44, schrieb Jed Rothwell: As shown in the video, the water condensed from steam in the external heat exchanger is not recycled back into the cell. It goes out the hose into the drain. So it is not accounted for in the flow calorimetry. In the plans for this test, someone

Re: [Vo]:There are two heat exchangers

2011-10-07 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 02:00 PM 10/7/2011, Peter Heckert wrote: Am 07.10.2011 22:44, schrieb Jed Rothwell: The primary circuit is closed, the condensed watersteam IS recycled. The video says NO ... it goes to his usual drain. Rossi explained this /repeatedly/ in his forum. He says so on the video.

Re: [Vo]:There are two heat exchangers

2011-10-07 Thread Jed Rothwell
Peter Heckert wrote: The primary circuit is closed, the condensed watersteam IS recycled. Rossi explained this /repeatedly/ in his forum. The secondary circuit is open. The water is not recycled. Rossi explained this /repeatedly/ in his forum. I know he did, and this confused me. As you see

Re: [Vo]:There are two heat exchangers

2011-10-07 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 07.10.2011 23:32, schrieb Alan J Fletcher: At 02:00 PM 10/7/2011, Peter Heckert wrote: Am 07.10.2011 22:44, schrieb Jed Rothwell: The primary circuit is closed, the condensed watersteam IS recycled. The video says NO ... it goes to his usual drain. Rossi explained this /repeatedly/ in

Re: [Vo]:There are two heat exchangers

2011-10-07 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: The secondary circuit is open. The water is not recycled. Rossi explained this /repeatedly/ in his forum. I know he did, and this confused me. As you see in the video he changed his mind. This is in the video at around 1:26. We just get rid of it . . . The camera follows the

Re: [Vo]:There are two heat exchangers

2011-10-07 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 08.10.2011 00:35, schrieb Jed Rothwell: I think this is the meter that Lewan says had a 0.5°C bias. I cannot imagine why! That's strange. These things are highly reliable and internally consistent. If they are well maintained. A thermocouple delivers only microvolts that must be

Re: [Vo]:There are two heat exchangers

2011-10-07 Thread Jed Rothwell
Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote: If he has drained the water from the primary circuit he has wasted energy. He said in august or september, they had done flow calorimetry previously with big success. Why all these confusing modifications and restrictions if this is true? I can

Re: [Vo]:There are two heat exchangers

2011-10-07 Thread Robert Leguillon
So, you will go on the record? The demonstrations have proven excess heat? This is irrefutable? Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote: If he has drained the water from the primary circuit he has wasted energy. He said in august or september,

Re: [Vo]:There are two heat exchangers

2011-10-07 Thread Jed Rothwell
Robert Leguillon robert.leguil...@hotmail.com wrote: So, you will go on the record? The demonstrations have proven excess heat? This is irrefutable? Unless someone refutes it, I suppose. I have not seen any credible refutations yet. If the Krivit hypothesis is the best the skeptics come up