True but it does provide a positive feedback effect, i.e. the hotter it gets,
the more there is on average, and therefore the hotter it gets.
Its average concentration will only decrease if temperature decreases _first_
due to some stronger cooling effect. Such stronger cooling effects _do_ exis
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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John Steck wrote:-
<Fred)... methane is a way more harmful/reactive GHG>> (snip in
9:06 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:to John Berry regarding GW
Paul Lowrance wrote:
> thomas malloy wrote:
> > John Berry wrote:
>
> I think what you meant to say is that volcanoes have in the past
> erupted to produce more CO2 than humanity ***for a given dura
thomas malloy wrote:
> Paul Lowrance wrote:
>
>> thomas malloy wrote:
>>
>>> Paul Lowrance wrote:
>>>
thomas malloy wrote:
> John Berry wrote:
I think what you meant to say is that volcanoes have in the past
erupted to produce more CO2 than humanity ***for a given
dur
I knew that Volcaino sh*t was bunk, thanks for finding the evidence.
On 4/25/07, Paul Lowrance <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
thomas malloy wrote:
> Paul Lowrance wrote:
>
>> thomas malloy wrote:
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>>> Paul Lowrance wrote:
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thomas malloy wrote:
> John Berry wrote:
I think wh
Thomas, so what?
Are you saying you have no doubt that man can pollute unchecked and be
assured no impact on the climate?
Even if you did why should pollution and oil be supported, even in your
right wing view of the world shouldn't Oil be given up for an alternative
energy?
Are you trying to sup
Paul Lowrance wrote:
thomas malloy wrote:
Paul Lowrance wrote:
thomas malloy wrote:
> John Berry wrote:
I think what you meant to say is that volcanoes have in the past
erupted to produce more CO2 than humanity ***for a given
duration***. Oddly enough you're missing a huge factor, "Durati
thomas malloy wrote:
Paul Lowrance wrote:
thomas malloy wrote:
> John Berry wrote:
I think what you meant to say is that volcanoes have in the past
erupted to produce more CO2 than humanity ***for a given duration***.
Oddly enough you're missing a huge factor, "Duration." IOW, humanity
con
thomas malloy wrote:
Paul Lowrance wrote:
thomas malloy wrote:
> John Berry wrote:
I think what you meant to say is that volcanoes have in the past
erupted to produce more CO2 than humanity ***for a given duration***.
Oddly enough you're missing a huge factor, "Duration." IOW, humanity
con
> Paul Lowrance wrote:
>
> > thomas malloy wrote:
> > > John Berry wrote:
> >
> > I think what you meant to say is that volcanoes have in the past
> > erupted to produce more CO2 than humanity ***for a given duration***.
> > Oddly enough you're missing a huge factor, "Duration." IOW, humanity
Actually, for the purposes of scientific argument, "bollocks" is much preferred.
P.
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From: John Berry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 8:27:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:to John Berry regarding GW
Balls!
On 4/24/07,
Paul Lowrance wrote:
thomas malloy wrote:
> John Berry wrote:
I think what you meant to say is that volcanoes have in the past
erupted to produce more CO2 than humanity ***for a given duration***.
Oddly enough you're missing a huge factor, "Duration." IOW, humanity
continues to pump out a s
because he's hiding his real
> feelings?
>
> Try getting to your own core, then worry about getting to the cores of
> all the others in this world, including Bush.
>
> P.
>
>
> - Original Message ----
> From: John Berry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: vort
Try getting to your own core, then worry about getting to the cores of all
the others in this world, including Bush.
P.
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From: John Berry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 7:56:59 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:to John Berry regardin
ting to the cores of all the
others in this world, including Bush.
P.
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From: John Berry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 7:56:59 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:to John Berry regarding GW
Balls.
The argument that us 'puny humans' can
This Mars "warming up" is a red herring. The source of that idea is one man
but it has been seized upon by the GW deniers as the basis of the latest in
a series of last minute revelations that they have trotted out - designed to
protect the status quo and muddy the waters. Most planetary climate
Also you said "I recall a news caster six weeks before saying that Europe
had
just experienced the warmest autumn in 500 years." You recall a news caster
making a statement??
The newscaster reported a statement. I don't know if he named a source. The
item was obviously intended to hype G
Jeff Fink wrote:
Listen, neither you or I are climate scientists. Therefore it's only logical
to
listen to the mass majority of PhD climate scientists.
It is the liberal way to silence dissenting voices. The size of the
mass majority is skewed because the esteemed potential dissenters
Jeff Fink wrote:
Again I wonder. What happened to the ice age we were threatened with in
the
late 70’s.
Please show your references of leading climate scientists make such claims.
You don't remember it? It was all over the news and in magazines
during the late 70's. If I hadn't
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From: Paul Lowrance [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 10:36 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:to John Berry regarding GW
No offense intended, but this topic is one of few that I take
***extremely***
seriously. I will be out right
thomas malloy wrote:
> John Berry wrote:
>
>> Balls.
>> The argument that us 'puny humans' can't effect the environment isn't
>> based on science, it's just a philosophy if
>
> Did you watch the video John? Volcanoes pump out 10 times as much CO2 as
> all human activity. The big volcano you mentio
John Berry wrote:
Balls.
The argument that us 'puny humans' can't effect the environment isn't
based on science, it's just a philosophy if
Did you watch the video John? Volcanoes pump out 10 times as much CO2 as
all human activity. The big volcano you mentioned blocked out the
sunlight whi
> Then there's the small matter of two Canadian
> scientists who utterly refuted the thinking/
> mathematics behind the so-called "hockey stick"
> graph that showed how much we puny humans have
> influenced climate since the Industrial Revolution.
> These chaps have been all but totally ignored, b
PHILIP WINESTONE wrote:
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> Then there's the small matter of two Canadian scientists who utterly refuted
the thinking/mathematics behind the so-called "hockey stick" graph that showed
how much we puny humans have influenced climate since the Industrial Revolution.
These chaps have been all b
No offense intended, but this topic is one of few that I take ***extremely***
seriously. I will be out right blunt and tell you that nearly all your
statements are out right fuzzy logic -->
Jeff Fink wrote:
Al Gore is poised to make millions if not billions off of “global warming”.
He puts s
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From: Jeff Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 5:44:58 AM
Subject: [Vo]:to John Berry regarding GW
Al Gore is poised to make millions if not billions off of "global
warming". He puts some chart in his m
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To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 5:44:58 AM
Subject: [Vo]:to John Berry regarding GW
Al Gore is poised to make millions if not billions off of “global
warming”. He puts some chart in his movie saying it is now the
warmest ever and
Al Gore is poised to make millions if not billions off of “global warming”.
He puts some chart in his movie saying it is now the warmest ever and you
buy it as gospel.
There are some flakey snake oil salesmen out there, and the gullibility of
some on this forum scares me.
It has been much w
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