Harry, thanks for the correction. I have discussed this subject previously
only in Finnish, so I was unsure if the basic income is widely used term. In
finnish language, we do not use the term negative income tax, but indeed we
use basic income. (Economic impact is the same for both but administrat
These are related proposals, but unlike the negative income tax concept,
basic income is a universal and unconditional payment.
Basic Income pilot project has just begun in India:
http://binews.org/2011/08/opinion-two-pilot-schemes-in-india/
A Basic Income project in Nambia:
http://www.bignam
>From Charles Hope
OrionWorks sez:
>> ... They don't want to hear about the fact that when government
>> employees "spend" their money it boosts the economy in exactly
>> the same manner as what would be "spent" from individuals who
>> work and earn income out in the free market. Money is m
Sent from my iPhone.
On Aug 6, 2011, at 18:54, "OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson"
wrote:
>
>
> ... They don't want to hear about the fact that when government employees
> "spend" their money it boosts the economy in exactly the same manner as what
> would be "spent" from individuals
On 11-08-06 04:09 PM, Harry Veeder wrote:
You said "AT LEAST one party which was not nuclear armed", which I took to mean
one or both parties which were not nuclear armed.
Right you were.
My comment was scrambled; mine was the error. Sorry!
An excerpt from Jouni:
...
> Technology is the real measure of wealth, money is just
> mediator what can be utilized into exchanging and
> distributing technology.
Generally speaking, I tend to agree with this assessment.
I suspect books like "The Lights in the Tunnel" which Mr. R
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> From: Stephen A. Lawrence
> To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
> Cc:
> Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2011 3:36:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vo]:[Political OT]: Global negative income tax
>
>
>
> On 11-08-06 02:56 PM, Harry Veeder wrote:
>
I should avoid negatives, they're too easy to mess up.
On 11-08-06 03:36 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
On 11-08-06 02:56 PM, Harry Veeder wrote:
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Cc:
Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2011 1:44:02 PM
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On 11-08-06 02:56 PM, Harry Veeder wrote:
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From: Stephen A. Lawrence
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Cc:
Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2011 1:44:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:[Political OT]: Global negative income tax
Since WWII ended, the only wars I can think of in
which at
2011/8/6 Jed Rothwell :
> I think we will need to do something like this when robots and computers
> eliminate most human labor. We need a gradual transition so a system along
> these lines. See:
> http://www.thelightsinthetunnel.com/
> - Jed
>
I think that according synopsis, author is too pessim
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> From: Stephen A. Lawrence
> To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
> Cc:
> Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2011 1:44:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vo]:[Political OT]: Global negative income tax
>
Since WWII ended, the only wars I can think of in
> which at lea
2011/8/6 Stephen A. Lawrence :
>
> On 11-08-06 11:04 AM, Jouni Valkonen wrote:
>>
>> 2011/8/6 Craig Haynie:
>>>
>>> You propose to end war with a
>>> global democracy, but wars will never end as long as we give the power
>>> seekers the ability to wage war.
>>
>> I have not seen a war in 66 years,
On 11-08-06 11:04 AM, Jouni Valkonen wrote:
2011/8/6 Craig Haynie:
You propose to end war with a
global democracy, but wars will never end as long as we give the power
seekers the ability to wage war.
I have not seen a war in 66 years, because I live in civilized and
rich country. Believe me,
I think we will need to do something like this when robots and computers
eliminate most human labor. We need a gradual transition so a system along
these lines. See:
http://www.thelightsinthetunnel.com/
- Jed
It's not reserved for poor countries, but weak countries. Thus, poor Libya,
having given up its nuclear ambitions, gets smacked around with a large trout,
whereas poor DPRK is allowed to fire missiles randomly around its region, and
it receives a finger wag.
Craig, truly brilliant post.
Sent
2011/8/6 Craig Haynie :
> You propose to end war with a
> global democracy, but wars will never end as long as we give the power
> seekers the ability to wage war.
I have not seen a war in 66 years, because I live in civilized and
rich country. Believe me, war is something that is only reserved fo
>> Global negative income tax
It's not just a coincidence that the world's largest democracies have
the most catastrophic wars, the most debt, the most regulations, and the
highest taxes. The power seekers of the world seek power, and the most
power is at the top. The freest countries offer the mo
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