For my own edification I continued to think about the issue of
potential energy gain and loss and I realise it depends on the
interatomic forces within the spring.
Cooling the compressed spring reduces the vibrations of the atoms in
the spring, and allows the interatomic forces to strengthen bonds
ahh thanks, because the first page of a google search for SMA lists
spinal muscular atrophy and the initials of some organizations.
harry
On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 7:27 PM, Jones Beene wrote:
> SMA = Shape memory alloy ...
>
> There are others which are not nickel titanium alloys
>
> http://en.wiki
SMA = Shape memory alloy ...
There are others which are not nickel titanium alloys
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shape-memory_alloy
-Original Message-
From: Harry Veeder
I would still like to know what SMA... means.
harry
I would still like to know what SMA... means.
harry
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Jones Beene wrote:
> Harry may be setting you up for SMA...
On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 1:03 AM, Jouni Valkonen wrote:
> On 8 September 2012 06:55, Harry Veeder wrote:
>>
>> When that system is submerged in the cold bath, the
>> spring will become stiffer and this will translate into more pressure
>> on the ends of the box, and therefore more potential energy.
On 8 September 2012 06:55, Harry Veeder wrote:
>
> When that system is submerged in the cold bath, the
> spring will become stiffer and this will translate into more pressure
> on the ends of the box, and therefore more potential energy.
>
I think that here you have just 'normal' heat engine. The
ill translate into more pressure
on the ends of the box, and therefore more potential energy.
harry
> -Original Message-
> From: Harry Veeder
> To: vortex-l
> Sent: Fri, Sep 7, 2012 1:16 pm
> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Compressed spring - what happens to the stored energy at
>
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 2:20 PM, Jouni Valkonen wrote:
> I do not think that this thought experiment works with springs. That is
> because spring energy is stored into compression of electron orbitals into
> higher energy levels. This means that compressed spring is more massive due
> to E=mc². How
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 9:39 PM, Harry Veeder wrote:
> Abd ul-Rahman Lomax asked:
>
>>>
>>> You could create a much simpler "violation." You slip a rectangular box of
>>> the right size over the compressed spring, so it can't return to its
>>> original size. Where did the potential energy go?
>>
>
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax asked:
>>
>> You could create a much simpler "violation." You slip a rectangular box of
>> the right size over the compressed spring, so it can't return to its
>> original size. Where did the potential energy go?
>
I answered,
> It is still present because the box is performi
Veeder
To: vortex-l
Sent: Fri, Sep 7, 2012 1:16 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Compressed spring - what happens to the stored energy at
different temperatures?
snip...
> You could get results of the opposite nature if you place a metal bar
between two firmly attached uprights and apply heat. The hea
So are we saying CF is really SLINKY POWER antigravity phenomenon? :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WktQfP0lgo
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Harry Veeder wrote:
> wow, so who (or what) killed the nitinol heat engine?
> and what does SMA mean?
>
> This nitinol machine converts heat in
wow, so who (or what) killed the nitinol heat engine?
and what does SMA mean?
This nitinol machine converts heat into mechanical energy. What I am
exploring is a sort of anti-heat engine - the destruction of
mechanical energy by cold.
harry
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Jones Beene wrot
Harry may be setting you up for SMA...
You only need to watch the first 3 minutes of this - to see the surprising
motor that raised a lot of eyebrows at the time - but never got traction, so
to speak...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKmYqUSDch8
I do not think that this thought experiment works with springs. That is
because spring energy is stored into compression of electron orbitals into
higher energy levels. This means that compressed spring is more massive due
to E=mc². However this is very intriguing thought experiment, because on
the
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 1:00 AM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
wrote:
> At 08:16 PM 9/6/2012, Harry Veeder wrote:
>>
>> If a spring is compressed by a force at room temperature, the spring
>> will return to its original length once the force is removed.
>> In the language of CoE the compressed spring is sa
On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 11:29 PM, David Roberson wrote:
> I think that the spring will return to its original position as in the first
> case if the temperature is returned to the same as before. This situation
> would demonstrate that the missing energy is taken away as heat into the
> liquid nit
At 08:16 PM 9/6/2012, Harry Veeder wrote:
If a spring is compressed by a force at room temperature, the spring
will return to its original length once the force is removed.
In the language of CoE the compressed spring is said to "store" the
energy of the work done by the force.
Now compress the
I think that the spring will return to its original position as in the first
case if the temperature is returned to the same as before. This situation
would demonstrate that the missing energy is taken away as heat into the liquid
nitrogen so it does not disappear.
You could get results of th
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