In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Mon, 07 Feb 2005 09:55:33 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
>>There is also the chance that, due to the uncertainties involved, the
>>effect will be too great, and overshoot the mark, resulting in a new ice
>>age. Once such a cloud is in place, it would be next to impossibl
I don't think that was the case at all. The strength of this list has
always been the highly creative people that engage in free-for-all
brainstorming. For brainstorming to truly work effectively, outright
disregard of 'crazy' ideas should never be done. Innovation comes from
unlikely places and
I wrote:
"Two or three modest space elevators with perhaps 10 times of
capacity each . . ."
I meant 10 tons of payload capacity, per trip. I think a trip would take
about a week with the primitive space elevators now being planned. The
Space Shuttle capacity is 29 tons. The DC-3 payload was about
Robin van Spaandonk wrote:
I am also troubled by the
possibility that the oil barons may use it as an excuse to keep on
keeping on.
That bothers me too, when applied to less drastic solutions that people
are actually offering now, such as building dikes around cities.
There is also the
chance t
> -Original Message-
> From: Nick Palmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 2005 February 06 Sun 00:26
> To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: A last resort attack on global warming
>
> < International Environment held investigative hearings on the military'
--- Nick Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ... I hope the seismic
> record confirms that it was a natural earthquake...
A nuclear detonation has a very specific seismic
signature.
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Terry, look at this bit below from the article. Where was the earthquake
that caused the recent tsunami centered? - off Aceh province in Indonesia
which is a breakaway area of fundamentalist Islamists... I hope the seismic
record confirms that it was a natural earthquake...
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At 1:23 AM 2/6/5, thomas malloy wrote:
>Now if we can figure out what to do about those pesky volcanos and
>the rocks that may be hitting the Sun
About the rocks hitting the sun, I think the first step toward a solution
is an early warning system. Below are some relevant past vortex posts.
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At 9:04 AM 2/6/5, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Horace- Is it not possible that orbiting these nano particles will
> have the opposite effect than expected.
>Would they not reflect heat back to the Earth, instead
> of allowing it to escape .
>The way that a clear cloudle
Horace- Is it not possible that orbiting these nano particles will
have the opposite effect than expected.
Would they not reflect heat back to the Earth, instead
of allowing it to escape .
The way that a clear cloudless sky really lets
temperature's drop
Horace Heffner posted;
Given that all else fails to stop global warming, and action is taken soon
enough that a 10 percent reduction in the solar insolation factor over the
I've heard some grand schemes Horace, and this is one of the grandest.
Assuming the deployment of this amount of payload can g
Seems that if a compound in the earth's statosphere
needed to be removed, the safest method may be by incineration using parapolic
shaped mirror reflectors. The reflectors would be adjustable to focus at a
specific range.
Richard
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Robin wrote:
> And the real cause of the problem is the greed of those who maintain a
monopoly over energy supply, when unlimited sources of clean energy are
available in black projects. IOW they continue to flog oil, even though
clean alternatives are available, simply because there is no profit
At 9:47 AM 2/6/5, Robin van Spaandonk wrote:
>In fact there is an SF movie that covers a very similar scenario (one of
>the Highlander movies?).
No kidding! What did they put in orbit and how did they get it there?
Regards,
Horace Heffner
>>>Just increase the stack height of the Chenney-Bush Coal-Burning (Hydrogen
Generating)
power plants, and remove the scrubbers so that the "Fly Ash" vents into the
stratosphere.
Such ash was originally thought to be the cause of global-cooling, in the
1970s.
Craig (Houston)
A Simple Solution:
Just increase the stack height of the Chenney-Bush Coal-Burning (Hydrogen Generating)
power plants, and remove the scrubbers so that the "Fly Ash" vents into the stratosphere.
Frederick
In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Sat, 05 Feb 2005 13:28:33 -0900:
Hi Horace,
[snip]
>At 9:00 AM 2/6/5, Robin van Spaandonk wrote:
>>In reply to Michael Foster's message of Sat, 05 Feb 2005 16:19:57 -0500:
>>Hi,
>>>
>>>This is an example of how a bunch of really quite intelligent people,
>>
At 9:00 AM 2/6/5, Robin van Spaandonk wrote:
>In reply to Michael Foster's message of Sat, 05 Feb 2005 16:19:57 -0500:
>Hi,
>>
>>This is an example of how a bunch of really quite intelligent people,
>>i.e., the people on this list, can launch off into something with
>>potentially disastrous result
In reply to Michael Foster's message of Sat, 05 Feb 2005 16:19:57 -0500:
Hi,
>
>This is an example of how a bunch of really quite intelligent people,
>i.e., the people on this list, can launch off into something with
>potentially disastrous results. What if the people on this list had
Agreed.
[s
Sat 02/05, Horace Heffner < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
From: Horace Heffner [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 11:47:49 -0900
Subject: Re: A last resort attack on global warming
Glad to see some good ideas flowing on vortex on this thread.A good
me
Glad to see some good ideas flowing on vortex on this thread.
A good means of dispersal might be the use of a laser or plasma torch to
disperse in atomic form. This atomic form might achieve a much better
initial coverage than nanoparticles, but would probably eventually
aggregate into nanopartic
er [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 1:18 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: A last resort attack on global warming
Keith Nagel at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Getting the powder into position won't be cheap with rockets.
> If we have the luxury of some time
replenished or adjusted up or down as
conditions required.
-john
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From: Jones Beene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 10:28 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: A last resort attack on global warming
--- Horace Heffner wrote:
> Given that
ha
-john
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From: Horace Heffner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 10:18 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: A last resort attack on global warming
At 6:57 AM 2/5/5, Terry Blanton wrote:
>--- Horace Heffner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
Keith Nagel at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Getting the powder into position won't be cheap with rockets.
> If we have the luxury of some time, loading the tops of the
> big volcanos with powder might be a cheap way to blast great
> wads of the stuff into space, assuming we get lucky and the
> ole g
Hey Horace,
Given that powdered metals in general make good catalysts for
chemical reactions, I'm not sure they are appropriate for
this application. Wouldn't something inert and light ( Boron perhaps )
be better? OTOH, if you could tailor the catalyzed reactions
to clean and repair the upper atmo
I wrote (before following "leads" from Terry's
reference)
> Another possiblility, assuming that space robotics
is
> perfected for use with Hubble etc.
Had I looked further on this authoritative site I
would have found
http://www.flatwoodsmonster.com/
and realized that the "authorities" have
--- Horace Heffner wrote:
> Given that all else fails to stop global warming,
and action is taken soon enough that a 10 percent
reduction in the solar insolation factor [snip] The
total deployed mass is thus 166,000 metric tons. The
price is about 1.7 trillion dollars.
INTERESTING... and a barga
At 6:57 AM 2/5/5, Terry Blanton wrote:
>--- Horace Heffner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> The objective might be met by dispersing orbiting
>> aluminum nanopowder
>
>Some believe this is already underway though at lower
>altitudes:
>
>http://www.unknowncountry.com/news/?id=1108
This is horrific
--- Horace Heffner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The objective might be met by dispersing orbiting
> aluminum nanopowder
Some believe this is already underway though at lower
altitudes:
http://www.unknowncountry.com/news/?id=1108
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Given that all else fails to stop global warming, and action is taken soon
enough that a 10 percent reduction in the solar insolation factor over the
EM band around 10^-6 m, from latitudes 50 to -50, can stop or reverse the
warming, then the following is suggested as a rough first estimate of how
t
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