RE: [Vo]:Incredible Gen3 paper

2013-11-06 Thread Jones Beene
One further point Lou. You wrote: I also wish that other spectral anomalies were observed - besides the broadband soft X-ray/EUV apparently due to hydrogen, but I believe that the 19.29 nm line is due to the oxidized cathode/anode surfaces - oxygen contamination. Yes - this line is close to a

RE: [Vo]:Incredible Gen3 paper

2013-11-06 Thread Jones Beene
In re-reading this thread, one other factor is worth mentioning wrt the oxygen connection to LENR. It does tie the Gen3 paper to Randell Mills via the Rydberg levels of hydrogen AND oxygen (when aligned and slightly unbalanced on the high side). It could easily be true that oxygen is desirable

Re: [Vo]:Incredible Gen3 paper

2013-11-06 Thread Jeff Driscoll
RPR then releases the hotter UV photon which can create another catalytic hole (when slightly downshifted) especially in oxygen preferentially. A limited chain reaction, mediated by UV photons, is the result. In short, this hybridized version provides a more complete picture than Mills,

RE: [Vo]:Incredible Gen3 paper

2013-11-06 Thread pagnucco
Jones, I will be delighted if your, or any LENR, theory is proved. Hopefully, the experiments will be improved and repeated to the point where 'The Establishment' cannot ignore them - if this is possible. -- Lou Pagnucco Jones Beene wrote: In re-reading this thread, one other factor is worth

RE: [Vo]:Incredible Gen3 paper

2013-11-06 Thread Jones Beene
Jeff, Looks like you have been imbibing on the BLP kool-aid... comments interspersed below... Do you glow-in-the-dark, yet? :-) From: Jeff Driscoll JB: RPF then releases the

Re: [Vo]:Incredible Gen3 paper

2013-11-06 Thread Jeff Driscoll
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 7:04 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Jeff, Looks like you have been imbibing on the BLP kool-aid... comments interspersed below... Do you glow-in-the-dark, yet? :-) From: Jeff Driscoll

RE: [Vo]:Incredible Gen3 paper

2013-11-05 Thread Jones Beene
There are several possibilities for the UV, Lou - and your hat is now in the ring along with Randy Mills and a few others. Cleary EUV and soft x-rays are involved. Clearly the values are not falling into the expected Rydberg levels. One value that stands out in this study is the 19.29 nm

RE: [Vo]:Incredible Gen3 paper

2013-11-05 Thread pagnucco
Jones, I also wish that other spectral anomalies were observed - besides the broadband soft X-ray/EUV apparently due to hydrogen, but I believe that the 19.29 nm line is due to the oxidized cathode/anode surfaces - oxygen contamination. However, I think this is a good experiment to repeat with

Re: [Vo]:Incredible Gen3 paper

2013-11-04 Thread pagnucco
Jones, A good find. I have only read it quickly, but maybe a simpler explanation suffices. Anomalous 'continuum' emissions occur only in proportion to hydrogen present. This leads me to conjecture that: Elliptical Rydberg H-atoms form and ionize, creating fairly intense (mixed e-p) current

Re: [Vo]:Incredible Gen3 paper

2013-11-03 Thread Axil Axil
It has been conjectured that the Ni/H reactor produces Rydberg matter based nanoparticles of hydrogen condensate upon the application of spark excitation. The unexpectedly high temperatures produced in the GEN3 experiments may have been produced from the explosion of these clusters of gas

Re: [Vo]:Incredible Gen3 paper

2013-11-03 Thread Terry Blanton
Interesting that Gen3 laboratories are located in St Petersburg, Russia. Ayn Rand would be proud. :-)

RE: [Vo]:Incredible Gen3 paper

2013-11-03 Thread Jones Beene
I'm guessing that PhDs can be hired there for a fraction of the cost of places like Boston... and that in contracting for this kind of experiment it may be an indication that they do not really know what is going on ... and are trying to find out from other POVs why the observed values are not

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Incredible Gen3 paper

2013-11-03 Thread hohlr...@gmail.com
Possibly. But did you look at their customer list? Lots of LARGE companies. LENR is not a consideration there. - Reply message - From: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:Incredible Gen3 paper Date: Sun, Nov 3, 2013 7:12 PM I'm guessing that PhDs can